Krismuss Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Is it no longer possible to search by title only?searching for bush removal and have thousand of topics with 'bush' and 'removal' somewhere in the thread!am I doing something wrong?chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Do you need a gardener or a beautician ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Try "bush removal" with the quotes. It will look for that phrase only (allegedly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted March 13, 2015 Area Representative Share Posted March 13, 2015 For me Search may be fully implemented but I retain a huge and substantial preference (within this site) for a directed search. However, this may be familiarity; I know for what I am searching and know where to look. When searching the web for other things, an open-ended search is frequently more effective. We are stuck with what we have, I use search as little as possible and rely on my memory and scrolling through pages in a visual search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted March 13, 2015 Support Team Share Posted March 13, 2015 Put a phrase in quotes to search for the phrase. e.g. "oil filter", "bush removal"Search for term a AND term b (use capitals for AND) to find content containing both terms. e.g. oil AND filter, bush AND removal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm not sure if it's because it's a number, but searching using quotes for "pin 6" returns threads containing "pin" and "pins", not just "pin 6" Can that be corrected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted July 22, 2015 Member Share Posted July 22, 2015 Can't help with the internal searching, but:http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:lotus7.club+%22pin+6%22Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted July 24, 2015 Area Representative Share Posted July 24, 2015 See my post in the Issues thread.I think that, unlike the mighty and highly successful Google which assumes you really are search for these woords in associations, our search covers either or word with no preference for both. Thus putting more words in diminishes the accuracy of the search rather than enhancing it. Putting quotation marks will only help if you need those words in strict association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmmarsh Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 The search routine is quite powerful now and the problem of it only searching text in the first post has been fixed.You can use AND, OR and NOT in the search string so searching for bush AND wishbone NOT removal will only return searches with bush and wishbone in them, but exclude any that contain removal. Way ray better than the old BC search.Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted July 26, 2015 Area Representative Share Posted July 26, 2015 Steve, the bit I don't understand is why OR is the default system rather than AND. Barry's Blatchat defaulted to AND and furthermore explained that Boolean operators were effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmmarsh Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 GJTi have no idea why it is different to the old search, but it doesn't bother me. What I do like is that it is much better at finding things than the old one was - it often failed to find things that I knew were there and it was very erratic if you searched on usernames. The odd thing about the new one is that it seems to parse the search terms - "removal" seems to find entries with "remove" highlighted, so it seems to be doing it intelligently, but it isn't always helpful if you are trying to be very specific in your search Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted July 27, 2015 Area Representative Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hi Steve, I, too, had noticed that it returned parts of the words I enter. I don't like this as I am always searching for particular items. If that is what is defined aas "intelligent" then I prefer "stupid" as does the world's most popular and effective search facility.I hear so much about industry/commerce looking at what other people do and adopting best practice (there was something on this in the NHS on the Today Programme this very morning), so I am aware that to adopt a different approach ("Thinking outside the box" *yawn* ) needs to meet exacting and exaulted criteria. I don't think this site hits such a performance standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmmarsh Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 GJTI don't know either - it does make more sense if it works the same way that Google search works, but Google allows Boolean operators so using them in BC searches is only a good thing! It still isn't as powerful as Google's though...Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 have posted this as a seperate topic but thought I would also add it here as well, as this thread is referenced in the issues document Still having search problems I thought I had got my head around this, I can find most stuff eventually (but do resort to Google) but what am I doing wrong here, quite prepared to be chastised for stupidity on a thread here I did an upload guide for images, I was trying to find it yesterday to answer a question posted , I could not find it anywhere until I resorted to using Google, using terms like click upload button returned way too many results as did click AND upload AND button tried "click upload button" found nothing, I know that phrase occurs in the post so why am I not finding the post. what am I doing wrong - See more at: http://www.lotus7.club/forum/bugs/still-having-search-problems#sthash.VuOJ7drQ.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmmarsh Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 TbirdYes, that happens sometimes - it looks like some of the posts are not being picked up by the search. In the early days search only looked at the first post, but now it seems to find most posts, although the example you give shows that it is still happening and so isn't a migration issue.FWIW, I never thought that the old BC search returned everything it should (sorry Barry!), but nobody seemed to mind. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thanks Steve, I suppose the problem is we don't know how much isn't indexed, even if I do say so myself I am pretty good a searching and often have problems finding things I know have been posted , far more often than on old BC. It is always concerning if we don't know what we can't find (if you see what I mean) especially when trying to search Tech. I know Google searches find the stuff that isn't indexed but I suspect a lot of people aren't aware that Google can be used and how to use it to search specific sites, and it shouldn't really be necessary to go to an outside search engine. Especialy when members are regulary told that there is nothing wrong with the search tool and we must be doing something incorrectly. Hopefully as time goes on NDP will be able to sort the problem, indexing shouldn't be a difficult task, should it Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 28, 2015 Support Team Share Posted September 28, 2015 Please can someone post specific instances where an expected thread doesn't appear in search so we have something to look for.Indexing can be quite a large overhead on a website so it isn't typically done immediately but is done at scheduled points. For some reason, sometimes it gets behind. We have reported this in the past and it has been fixed. I'll report it again and try to understand the root cause.I have also requested that the default search be boolean AND rather than OR. I'll let you know if this is possible.Bear in mind Google spend billions on their search engine and we are using a free Open Source search. Personally I think it's pretty good (ignoring the missing indexes) and returns expected results reliably. There are several filters available as well to narrow things down. The search covers all content types so if you are looking for technical help you will get results from the Guides section, Blogs and even News as well as from Techtalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Shaun Hi,Thanks for reply, I posted specifics last week in Bugs here, 2 other members have tested,and had same problem with that specific thread tested with Mac and PC, the post I was looking for was posted several months ago so shouldn't be just a delay to indexing,cheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 28, 2015 Support Team Share Posted September 28, 2015 Hi Tim - I just searched forpicture AND androidand your thread was the first returned. However the terms you tried don't work so it looks like the title has been indexed but not the text in the thread. It's a good example for me to be take back to the developers.Thanks,Shaun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Many thanks Shaun, good luck :-) Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Shaun, when you go back to NDP regarding search issues, can you get the order of the Authors list set to alphabetical please as this request http://www.lotus7.club/forum/bugs/search-results-filter-author from 25/6/15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 29, 2015 Support Team Share Posted September 29, 2015 Ian - already requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Any news on this yet Shaun, as far as I can see the site is still only indexing the first post not whole threadcheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted October 22, 2015 Support Team Share Posted October 22, 2015 I'll chase NDP when I get a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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