cb4798 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hi,I am attempting to route all the cooling pipes around the engine but am somewhat confused by the manual.If anyone has a cooling diagram or a picture of their engine bay, that would be appreciated.Thanks,Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 2, 2014 Member Share Posted November 2, 2014 Do you have the Assembly Guide already?Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yes, but it doesn't appear to be much use for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 When I build mine in 2012 I had to cut up some of the supplied pipes to the right lengths to make things fit as what I was supplied with did not fit with what was needed. This was early days of supersport 140. I don't have any photos with me at the moment but may have when I get back in this evening.if you are still having problems let me know and I will see what I can do. If you want to BM me with any specific questions please feel free.mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballisticsupersport Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Hi Chris,When I built mine last year I had exactly the same problem. Manual didn't describe the 140 installation. I was told that this was being sorted out - clearly not! I ended up going to the factory to look at cars being assembled to figure it out.PM me your email address and I'll send any photos you need. Or if you're local you're welcome to come around and have a look at my car ( Cranbrook Kent)CheersTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Thanks Mark/Tom, Thanks for the offers.Tom, PM sent.I'm going to try popping into Caterham South today and see if I can have a look around an engine bay.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 So, I popped into Caterham South today and had a chat with a very helpful technician.He answered all my question - the manual is so wrong it's pretty much unusable for this part of the build.Caterham get it so right in many ways and so wrong in others!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 3, 2014 Member Share Posted November 3, 2014 Do you think you might be able to document the solution in a way that would have helped you? Words, photos, a blog?ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Have you got to the bit where you ask them what the extra washer bottle is for and they tell you it's the oil breather catch tank? Not in the manual. All you have to do is work out where to fit it, how many holes to cut in the lid and how many pipes go into it (2).Well, where would the fun be if it was all exactly as the manual! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 I have been thinking about that. The supersport I looked at yesterday didn't have that breather bottle attached so I assumed it wasn't required.Back to the drawing board then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FramerateUK Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Just so you know, mine's a 140 and doesn't have a oil catch tank- it was a factory built car too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Thanks. I have asked Caterham to confirm. Hopefully, they say the same as you. Fingers crossed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 I've had confimation from Caterham that it isn't required.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 That's interesting. So where do the two breather pipes go now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy bell Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 i had a tracksport and McMillan Motorsports did the upgrade to supersport and yeh more racing side of things. If you need any pictures and stuff then let me know or a video :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Thanks Andy. I think i have it sorted now. The route is as follows: Rear of bulk head to heater, Heater to modine, Modine to t piece, LHS of engine to t piece, T piece to coolant bottle, Coolant bottle to rear of bulkhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Kneebone to thighbone ...... etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 More like head to brick wall ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin J Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 What could be simpler than an overhead picture of the installation in the build manual. A picture is better than a thousand words etc..... When building my 125 there was an A4 picture of a completed engine bay of the 125 & 150. I found it easy to folllow. At the time the sigma had only been out about a year. The 140 has been around for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 That's the problem. The photo is still an old sigma setup. 10 minutes in Caterham taking a few photos sorted most of the issues. I really don't understand why they find it so hard to keep the manual up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 9, 2014 Member Share Posted November 9, 2014 How about putting what you've discovered in a blog?ThanksJonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb4798 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 It might have to wait until I know what I have done is correct, otherwise it would be just as bad as the manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy bell Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 let me take some pictures and post a blog up then. I would hope if anyone is going to get it right it would be McMM :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy bell Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Right thats me posted some pictures of before the conversion (forgot i had these) and also pictures of what it looks like post conversion. If anyone wants any more let me know - I didnt bother taking nosecone off but can do if required.http://www.lotus7.club/blogs/caterham-supersport-140-engine-bayInterestingly if you click this link it doesnt appear to show all the text... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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