Member Jonathan Kay Posted January 18, 2015 Member Share Posted January 18, 2015 Any comparison photos, please? (Sorry if you've posted them already.)JonathanPS: "Reflect"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 iPad auto correct! No photos sorry but don't find they show the effect anyway as really seen by the eye.will be spring now before I get the car out again though. Pics in garage look amazing but down the road view is not matched by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyH Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Just a thought, should one wish to just hook these up as additional sidelights - is there any legality that would prevent that?I prefer using dipped headlights to DRL, precisely so that the tail lights are also lit, so I'm thinking of using the above but without a dimmer and wired to the sidelights feed rather than ignition.I'd keep the sidelights in the headlight bowls as well; is there any reason why a 'second sidelight' that went off when the indicator flashed would be an MOT or legal problem? I'm ignorant in these things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted January 28, 2015 Member Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'd keep the sidelights in the headlight bowls as well; is there any reason why a 'second sidelight' that went off when the indicator flashed would be an MOT or legal problem?I can't see a problem with that. But do they comply with the Regulations for sidelights?Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyH Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Wow, the things you learn when actually reading the highway code...https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all-drivers-riders-103-to-158/lighting-requirements-113-to-1164. Lighting requirements (113 to 116)113You MUSTensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunriseuse headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting. These roads are generally restricted to a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) unless otherwise specifiedI never realised you could get away with *not* having your headlights on at night on a lit road. I always flash people running on sidelights alone. Oops.My first guess based on the above (first bullet) is that a sidelight that goes off when the indicator comes on is not adequate as a sidelight.Meanwhile, the MOT testers manual says of "position lamps"...http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_110.htm3. Check that the lamps:(...)f. are not adversely affected by the operation of any other lamp....therefore again, lights that turn off when an indicator runs are probably not acceptable as sidelights.However, that same guide also says:Additional or optional lamps are not included in the inspection.As I'd be retaining the actual side lights in the headlight bowls, and the new LEDs would not be DRLs either (not on with the ignition), I think I could argue they were "optional" lamps and therefore not to be inspected.Maybe.Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted January 28, 2015 Member Share Posted January 28, 2015 Did you find the specific DfT statement on DRLs?The legal requirement is to meet all the current Regulations whenever your car is on the highway but in practice most people rely on passing the MoT. I would guess that for private cars the number of proceedings brought in other ways is tiny, unless you have an accident or draw attention to yourself in some other way...Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyH Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Hmm. Yes... there's also the concern that these *may* be bright enough to dazzle at night, while Mavic reports his bulbs got fried, possibly by the dimmer.On balance I'm thinking I'll leave it for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 They would work fine as additional side lights but would be illegal as they are to bright.the bulbs though are fine, figured out the issue with the dimmer frying bulbs. The dimmer is fine simply feeding DRLs and my switch back bulbs are fine on there own but together the circuit has issues. More diodes would be needed.so I have ditched the dimmer and all is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCat7 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 How about wiring so that when the sidelights/headlights were switched on, the DRLs go off?Did you just cable tie the additional wires to the outside headlight brackets? I found it an absolute pig to feed wires through the headlight brackets (newish low type).I have Cree LED bulbs in my sidelights which I think are bright enough to be a subsitite for DRLs. I'm thinking of wiring my sidelights so that they come on automatically with ignition. I guess it should be straightfoward. Has anyone done that? I have been running with sidelights switched manually but have left my lights on a couple of times and needed a jump start :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I have a light warning buzzer instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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