Budjuggler Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 I have recently disconnected the battery and put in on charge. Having completed the charge and reconnected the engine does not turn over. No attempt! Engine is a 1.6K SS The lights work, the ignition light comes on but, on turning the key, there is zero response. Ideas please R770 VOM Anniversary (with cycle wings) Edited by - andy webber on 15 Dec 2002 16:00:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 greasy connection on the wire to the starter 🤔 it has to take over 100 Amps so needs to be a VERY good connection... HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 ECU fuse? common problem as factory fitted a 20amp which is marginal, if it's gone replace it with a 30amp or you've knocked the small wire off the solenoid on the starter Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budjuggler Posted December 15, 2002 Author Share Posted December 15, 2002 Hoopy, Tried that - no luck Mark Where is the ECU fuse? R770 VOM Anniversary (with cycle wings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budjuggler Posted December 15, 2002 Author Share Posted December 15, 2002 OK. Checked the ECU fuse - its OK. Also checked the starter cable - OK also More ideas, please! Edited by - andy webber on 15 Dec 2002 18:35:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Andy, Just because there's enough juice in the battery to power the lights, doesn't mean there's going to be enough to start the engine. I just wonder if you have left the battery long enough to flatten it totally, what with your foot and all? The battery might not really be taking any charge at all, despite what your charger says. I don't think the Banner batteries like being flattened completely. Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 good point - stick a voltmeter across the battery, you want over 13 volts from it. HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Needs a proper test really - current is the thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted December 15, 2002 Share Posted December 15, 2002 Andy With the lights on do they go dim when you try and start it? If yes, it is probably Battery or connections If no it's either ECU Fuse Bad live connection from Battery to Starter Bad Earth from Battery or Body to Engine Small wire not connected to starter Knackered starter Only other thing to consider is connections to Batter Master Switch if you have one Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarek Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 Sounds like what happened to me - it turned out that the battery wasn't taking the charge and the cure was a new battery (and a conditioner). No problems since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 Try it with a hydrometer before ditching the battery. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budjuggler Posted December 16, 2002 Author Share Posted December 16, 2002 Thanks guys - its fixed However, I'm not going to say what it was cos you'll think I'm really stupid 😳 and I don't want Den to take the p*** ❗ Anyway, thanks for the advice. Edited by - andy webber on 16 Dec 2002 19:38:01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS CLARK Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 ................................but we still want to know Mr Webber. You can't disappoint your reading public now can you ! Anyway, we all have done stupid things. So, I'll start then. I remember doing the tappets on my Triumph 1500 (1st car) and being in a hurry to get to an evening job I had. Put the rocker box cover back on and shot off to work. Coming home at about 10.30 I noticed the water temp gauge rising to the red. Pulled over, bonnet up. Nothing obvious. Fan belt in place, no radiator/hose leaks etc. Anyway, I let it cool a bit and then started off again. Same result. To cut a long story short it took me 'till 1.30 in the morning to get home. Looked at it next day in daylight and realised in my hurry I'd trapped the sender wire under the rocker box cover and shorted it out !!!! Live & learn etc. 😬 Clamshell Club Founder Member and stationary engine enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budjuggler Posted December 16, 2002 Author Share Posted December 16, 2002 CC Hmmmm. Thanks for the offer, but I'll keep it under my hat for now - if only to boost the amount I can get from The Mirror/Sun/Star for the serialisation. Anyone got a number for Max Clifford? R770 VOM Anniversary (with cycle wings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 and I don't want Den to take the p*** Seriously, wouldn't dream of it. Come on Andy, tell all to save someone else (more than likely, me!) from making the same mistake? Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budjuggler Posted December 16, 2002 Author Share Posted December 16, 2002 OK. But you have to promise to keep this to yourself - just between the two of us. OK? The problem was that, having connected evrything up, I stood at the side of the car, put the key in and turned it. Nothing. Listen, its not my fault, I've not had the red starter button long and I forgot it. OK? No stop, its not that funny - and don't forget you promised not to tell anyone else. Thanks DEn ❗ R770 VOM Anniversary (with cycle wings) and starter button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 At least it was something simple and your 7 is alive again! Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7 Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 😬 😬 😬 Seriously, glad you sorted it !! Proves EVERYONE has had one of these at some stage!! Almost exactly the same thing happened to me some years ago...just doing normal checks before an early Sunday blat, everyhting OK, tyres, oil, battery etc., except it don't start - churn churn churn, flooded carbs, churn churn churn, no life.... This is Sat night, so instead of pub, head under the car - smack fuel pump with hammer, nothing, remove fuel pump, and rebuild (now 1am, and up to elbows in grease, crud and fuel!), nothing.....give up, sleep, and blat in the tintop on Sunday.... Picnic lunch on Sunday someone mentions, fuel cut switch...... P*****d or what? 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS CLARK Posted December 16, 2002 Share Posted December 16, 2002 Is THAT all? V.easy mistake especially if you've only just fitted it. I still do it occasionally out of habit when I've spent all week driving the tin top which still uses the conventional key start. You'll soon get used to it. Still comes as a thrill to start the engine on that button though even a year on since fitting it. 😬 Clamshell Club Founder Member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwaters Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Oh yes.. done this a few times. I was taking someone out for a ride once and it wouldn't start in the garage, so jumped out the car all embarressed, off with the bonnet, everything looked fine. Back in car... realised I hadn't pushed the button Away she goes, out of car, back on with bonnet and passenger was suitable scared a few minutes later Very easy to do! Phil Waters You mean you can drive these? I thought it was just there to polish 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Big and red huh? Easy to miss! /Steve My racing pics, 7 DIY, race prep. Updated often here Photo's of the year here Hants (North) and Berkshire Area club site here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Mupferit Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Oh come on guys you are all being FAR too understanding and soft on Andy. Surely this deserves a monumental wind up and p*** take AND...... at the very least it merits a special award at the Phoenix Xmas bash on Thursday 😬 See you there Andy......he he he 😬 😬 😬 After all I've NEVER done anything that daft, or worse ❗ It wasn't my fault I didn't notice that I hadn't taken the spanner off the crank pulley when I was turning the motor to time it on that old Cortina. How was I to know it would fly off and demolish the rad. when I started her up? Or there was that time I was unblocking the sink, emptied the contents of it and the U bend in to a bowl, looked for somewhere to tip it and, cleverly, tipped it straight back into the sink having not replaced the trap. Brainless? Moi? Nah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Just to keep it near the top I can't take the p*** - you guys haven't done my quiz yet! 😳 I'm sure Mr Foster will be in agreement, anyone who does take the Michael automatically volunteers to do next years' quiz.... Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Volunteers for the quiz are always welcome. So Denis' suggestion can be applied. Only exemption is having done the quiz within the last 3 years... Right Dennis, prepare your wind up lines... /Steve My racing pics, 7 DIY, race prep. Updated often here Photo's of the year here Hants (North) and Berkshire Area club site here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Steve - Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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