Superwhite R283 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Ideally a complete kit, but would consider parts and I'll make it up the remaining parts. Any conduction, happy to re-powdercoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Probably not much use, but I now have a pair of damper extensions spare after fitting the later, longer dampers to my '96 chassis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superwhite R283 Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Hi Mine is a S3 metric 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 You'll be needing those if you are retaining your standard Bilsteins. I also have an orange 1/2" widetrack ARB that you can have too. After I've straightened it out following my friend's tyre wall incident! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superwhite R283 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hi Mankee. Plan is to keep the Bilsteins for a while (from a cost perspective). Had a few parts offered, problem is the wide track kit is cheaper than the parts individually so if I get a few more parts offers I'll give you a shout for the extensions/ARB. Always knew it was a long shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Not a problem! I was in the same position as you when I went widetrack a few years ago. £300 (I think) for a new kit vs. hunting for used bits. I scored a set of wishbones and ARB for £100 via a Graduates racer and the rest of the hardware came from Redline. Once I'd sold the old wishbones and ARB, it was a very cheap/free upgrade. Might be worth looking on the Graduates forum, as a lot of the racers will keep spares in case of a prang and now could be the time that they will have a purge of parts toward the season close. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superwhite R283 Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 CC want £430 ish, DT is closer to £500 ☹️ I'll give Redline a call tomorrow, worth a try. Good call on the grad forum, just looked, nothing at the mo but will keep popping back . I've found one wishbone (OS lower), track arm extensions and your bits so far.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hi, you've got me thinking now! Probably a question for Mankee - are there any issues with fitting a widetrack to a pre-1996 chassis, ie with the combined damper/top wishbone mounting? Are there two kind of kit or top wishbone to accommodate the pre and post 1996 front suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Hey Tom. No issues at all in my case. I used my existing dampers to start with, so still needed the damper extensions. I used steering arm extensions rather than changing the whole track rod and had to remove a small amount from them as it toed out massively even when the rod ends were wound all the way in. This point might be true for later chassis when widetracking anyway. I've now fitted (inverted) later dampers that are longer and don't need the extensions. I think I read a post from you way back in the archives, but the damper eyelets are around 3mm wider for the later dampers, so they either need swapping over or the eyelets thinned a little. Not sure how the geometry and spring rates change in comparison to the post-96 geometry, as I'm still trying to get it handling the way I want it, especially in the wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Do you think its worth doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 For me personally, and I'm no suspension/handling guru, what it cost me in terms of time and money made it worthwhile. If I had to pay full price for the kit plus for someone to fit it and set it up, I'm not sure it would be worth it. However, if you are into your looks, then having the front track the same as the rear does change the appearance of the car quite significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishmaninwales Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Tom I fitted wide track to my 94 car and found that it generally made the 'feel' of the car better, but didn't improve track times. It made bump steer worse which needed attention and the front spring rates need a change as the damper/spring ends up a more horizontal position than on a post 96. I have a pair of lengthened AVOs which will suit your per 96 set up if you wish, which are surplus as I fitted a post 96 long front after my crash Malcolm Edited by - Englishmaninwales on 28 Oct 2013 07:30:38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted October 28, 2013 Leadership Team Share Posted October 28, 2013 Tom, I fitted wide track to my old pre '96 car. I used the standard (adjustable) Bilsteins with the extension pieces added. Later I fitted a pair of post '96 shocks which are around 1" longer, but without any extenders. I had to fit these upside down to ensure acceptable clearance around the top spring platform (now the bottom). Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 To avoiding cluttering up daz's thread further, is it worth starting a new one in Tech Talk for pre-96 suspension chatter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superwhite R283 Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 Keeps mine at the top 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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