Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted May 15, 2014 Leadership Team Share Posted May 15, 2014 These I assume? Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 15, 2014 Member Share Posted May 15, 2014 Did they cost less than £870 per side? Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Lynch Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Crikey, someone is optimistic at that price. Cursory search says £720 a pair. About £600 more than non LED one's I've just fitted 😳 Doesn't make sense given excellent Cree T6 900 lumen bike lights are thrown out of China for £25. Appreciate hoops of type approval to jump through but it's a switching light source, few reflectors, heat dissapation and a piddling sidelight. How hard can it be ? I got Wipac's TÜV test cert for the LED Indicators I fitted and that's a joke as to true effectiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Really interesting, I have gone for a set of Truck lite phase 7 units in the end. Currently on route from the USA. I hope they should be like footnote beams :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattie Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Here you go. http://i60.tinypic.com/125ja6p.jpg Edited by - Rattie on 27 May 2014 14:25:34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 27, 2014 Member Share Posted May 27, 2014 :-) Could you face getting some photos of the beam pattern with a traditional 7 set-up for comparison? Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted May 27, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted May 27, 2014 Quoting RobW: how often do you Blat at night ?Well, most driving needs headlights for three or four months of the year. Do you hibernate (wish I could)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted May 27, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted May 27, 2014 Has anyone inspected or tried these from SVC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Share Posted May 27, 2014 Ouch they are expensive. Love the look of the JD Speaker lights, they were the ones I saw in the flesh. However my Truck lite phase 7's arrive tomorrow and get good reviews. Some what cheaper than those from SVC. Like these LED lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Rattie, do they fit on the old shells or come complete or? alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted May 27, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted May 27, 2014 Quoting Jonathan Kay: Can you tell us where you got them? Yes please. And how much you paid. I looked at the J.W.Speaker site for the US, the store appears to list everything but automotive (Interior lights, portable work lights, signal lights, work lights, marine lights (only one there), service parts, warning lights). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Alan, they replace just the glass/bulb unit. Details: These are held in place by three clips bearing on the glass flange. The flange is slightly thicker on the JWS unit and you have to make sure the clips don't ride too close to the main body of the JWs light, or they foul on the rim of the headlamp bowl, preventing you from bringing the two parts back together properly. GJT and JK, I got them from MobileCentre... 8630 UK at MobileCentre As you'll see from the page, not cheap. I was sold on the benefits over the TruckLite units (not that they do 5.75" units) after watching a demo on youTube... 8630 on youTube see 11:00 for US pattern The UK pattern is the flipped version obviously, but you can really see the pattern quality. The MobileCentre guys do offer discounts for Landrover club members, so they may be open to cutting a deal. Edited by - Rattie on 28 May 2014 09:08:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted May 28, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks. I wouldn't have a fitting problem in the 21 (well, I'd have to secure them in place). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 28, 2014 Member Share Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Is the 21 a 5.75" or 7" fitment? JWS also do various mounting options, with adjustments, for panel mounts like LandRover or 70s/80s BMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted May 28, 2014 Area Representative Share Posted May 28, 2014 Quoting Rattie: Is the 21 a 5.75" or 7" fitment? JWS also do various mounting options, with adjustments, for panel mounts like LandRover or 70s/80s BMW. 7", and of course, a smaller substitute would not be appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Lef Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Rattie Hi, Is there any chance 😬 you might post a few pics of your new lights switched on (night) for a real view of how good they look? I have the SVC 5 3/4 headlamps and wondered whether you knew if they equated to the Caterham ones you seem to have - for a 'fit' comparison. The LED lights look the spuds by the way Andy Edited by - Andy Lef on 28 May 2014 15:31:01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattie Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Quoting Golf Juliet Tango: Quoting Rattie: Is the 21 a 5.75" or 7" fitment? JWS also do various mounting options, with adjustments, for panel mounts like LandRover or 70s/80s BMW. 7", and of course, a smaller substitute would not be appropriate. Ah, in which case you have even more choice... JWS 8700 range at MC (Obviously you'd want the ones with "front position", i.e. sidelight) The TruckLites are 7" also, along with those SVC multi multi element ones. Andy, no probs once we have a dry night and I have some time. Edited by - Rattie on 28 May 2014 15:57:02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 28, 2014 Member Share Posted May 28, 2014 Please could you photograph beam patterns with an incandescent 7 for comparison? You'll need to turn automatic exposure off if you can't fit it all in one shot... ;-) Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Did you look at the video link on the first page? They test a jeep with standard (like our sevens) then the JW and Trucklight units for beam pattern and brightness. Not a seven but a good comparison to standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Share Posted May 28, 2014 Arrived today and they look cool, but by god they are heavy. The back is cast alloy, can't imagine it needs a heat sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted May 28, 2014 Share Posted May 28, 2014 Reasonable power LEDs do need rather generous heat sinking, and careful air flow management. I've had to add an enormous heat sink area and provide considerable forced airflow for LED replacement assembly for halogen lighting for a leak tester on the high speed metal forming machines I design. Like a simple resistive load, LEDs get hot from the current passing through them. Unlike a resistive load, as they get hot they allow more current to flow through them. So they get hotter. More current. More heat . . . Simplistic explanation, but its just about right. You tend to also need a current regulated supply to combat the runaway. Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavic82 Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 Just back from a night blat. Had one normal and one led headlight. They are simply awesome, it may as well be daylight and I would not of known if the standard light had been turned off. So now I just need to loose some weight as they make the bowls shake on bumpy roads. Will risk cutting the back of the body away and find a way of using the bowl as the heat sink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Sorry for the necropost, but here is more info about the J.W.Speaker lights.I got the seven MOTed on monday for the first time since swapping to the 8630. Passed no problem, as indeed it should, the beam pattern is super crisp!The lights are now vastly cheaper at MobileCentre and there is a new improved Evo version, which has more elements to it.At some point I may even get around to taking pictures of the beam patterns. No breath holding please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregs79 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Interesting to read. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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