Robert Sharpe Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 I've been waiting on Yokohama to supply me with A021R's for my 185/60x14 wheels - over 6 weeks the car has been off the road now they tell me there will be no supply until Jan 2003! I can't wait that long without using the car. What would anyone suggest as replacements? Car mostly used for road use with occassion track day. I've had Mitchlen before but want something softer yet does not wear in on season. Yokohama have suggested A539 tyres? Any good? All advice welcome before I pull my hair out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 A021Rs in a different size 🤔 185/70R14 🤔 205/60R14 🤔 HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 20, 2002 Share Posted November 20, 2002 Or CR500s 🤔 Cost will be twice as much but they're lighter. I think wear rate is similar and grip slightly better. HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Grundy Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Robert This might be a silly question, but have you tried George Polley. If he cant get them nobody can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I have A539, cheap and very good tyre very very good in the wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispy Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Robert, Got exactly the same spec tyres from George Polley delivered the next day in September. Excellent service, availability and price. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 But Polley have run out. And since they've the importer so has everybody else... HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Green Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Demon Tweeks not got any stock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Westie Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 What about the Kuhmo V700, anyone know anything about these? The car in front is a Westfie1d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 i think some of the swedes and finns use them... Any of them listening 🤔 I'm sure Anders Jansa does actually... HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Are collway still in business. The Intermediates gave good grip, samilar wear rate and were cheaper. Downside was that they were a bit heavier. /Steve My racing pics, 7 DIY, race prep. Updated often here Hants (North) and Berkshire area club site here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordy Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 I just took Colway F2 off my car, they are really rather heavy as they are remoulds. No idea about grip because they look a bit dangerous in the wet as they do not have any full channels to the edges of the tyre, I changed them ASAP. Can imagine they stick well enough in the dry and I hear they are very cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Get some CR500's there are a bit more expensive but a better all round tyre, if you get them direct from Avon they are only around £80/corner... Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 80 a corner... hmmm.. I'm getting tempted to get a second set of wheels (will be at least summer next year) and run ACB10s on one for the dry and CR500s for the winter and for tours... What's the wear like on CR500s compared to yoko32 S? HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Hoopy, Do 185/70R14 exist in A021R? When I got my car it had P600(0?)s 185/65-14. Given my preference for ground clearance and generous slip angles I asked around for 185/70-14, but was told they didn't exist in A021R. Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 70s only exist in 13". here has a page of tyres sizes somewhere... HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 The kumhos seem to be well liked by those across the North Sea... It is what Anders uses on the front and Henrik, Jan Brolund and I use all around. Excellent tyre. Cheap and sticky. I did 1.20-ish with Avon in ACB10 compound last summer in good conditions on the Gellerasen track. I did 1.16.9 with the Kumho's when it was +3 degrees now in october. Costs about half of the ACB10:s. Definetely worth the weight difference. NB some of the price difference will be because they have to ship ACB10s across individually I think. HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJY910 Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Darn you'e fast hoopyboy... I was going to reply myself... The cost of the Kumho Ecsta V700:s is quite low. About 75 UKP a corner depending on size (incl VAT). Be sure to get them in K8 compound. You should also know that the ACB10:s I used was the Caterham supplied A33 compound which are as soft as an ice-hockey puck. Another factor you should weigh into that comparison is that I had the 245 wide ACB10:s and narrower Kumhos plus better setup now. The 245 were too wide and just kept pushing the front end. So you should absolutely try the Kumhos. Cheers Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 HOOPY 500 kg R706KGU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Well I have just completed a change from 21Rs to A539s and am happy. My 21Rs on the rear were illegal after only about 2500 road miles, so I needed to sacrifice a little ultimate grip for durabilty. You have to be seriously trying on a try road to get them to unstick & in the wet they seem pretty good. I might have a case of Ped Plumbus. Better go & check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJY910 Posted November 21, 2002 Share Posted November 21, 2002 Had to check what the Kumhos cost. It was about 70 UKP per corner inc VAT. You should also know that the popularity is partly due to the fact that they were not classified as "Race Tyres" in the Swedish roadsports championship. Thet are of course "R-tyres" but the classification means that using Kumhos allows a lighter car than if you were using Yokos. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodoo Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 Kumho is one of the preferred street legal tires by USA coneheads. Never heard a complaint about them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Peterson Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I am currently running Goodyear Eagles on prisoner wheels, but they are old & hard 😳. Are the Kumho's available? Anyone have experience with Eagles? Cheers! No officer, the wheel is on the RIGHT side. Red Super Sprint De Dion 6 speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Woods Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 I had Eagles+Prisoners on my car and wasnt very impressed. I suspect that they had a contribution towards my crash - the car started to spin when rounding a bend at a speed which I didnt think was excessive. As part of the rebuild I'm switching to 13" Minators + 185/70 A021R's, several people here have made this switch and they all rave about it. The overall size for 185/70s is the same as the Eagles so there is no need to sort out the speedo gearing. I was quoted £85 per tyre inc vat , balancing and fitting for replacement Eagles from a local supplier. George Polley quoted me £100 all-in for a Minator + A021 inc vat and fitting, so for £15 a corner more its a no-brainer really. Nick P8MRA - The green one with red wings. Which is now bent ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ but is being fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Peterson Posted November 22, 2002 Share Posted November 22, 2002 But I like how the Prisoners look, and Minators+AO-21's are not easy to come by out here in the Colonies. Detroit is still selling ox carts, which are appropriate for some of our roads/drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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