Drumster Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm probably going to replace my handheld with a plumbed-in extinguisher and having read back through the archives noted that people have generally mounted them in the boot or on passenger floor. Neither of these are particularly useful as SWMBO is a regular passenger and we use the boot space for touring and wouldn't want something obstructing the handle. I've seen a few people mention in front of the bulkhead on the shelf where the heater used to be. I can't see anything in the MSA regs that says you can't have it there but would like to know if this is acceptable or just a bad idea. Your comments please....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Although scrutineers like to see it, it can go anywhere. However, Lifeline do a dumpy 2.25litre which can bolt to floor nicely side ways tight up against floor cross member which is directly in front of seat so when wife is sitting down it would be directly underneath her knees it shouldn't be an issue Edited by - Pendennis on 28 Feb 2013 16:03:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mankee Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 How weird. I was only just recently waxing lyrical with a friend about the fire extinguisher I have currently have in my ex-racer, which I think is exactly what Ian describes. It's an old Lifeline Zero 2000 dumpy plumbed-in job fitted across the floor under the knees of the passenger. I can't comment on motorsport legality as I don't (and won't) compete, which is why I'm thinking of ditching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Chris - I have the dumpy 2.25 as mentioned by pendennis if you want to test fit it somewhere it used to be in the boot, but not been fitted at all for a couple of years rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Chris I planned to put mine on the passenger floor. my kit has a bulk head connector that can clip the pipe on and off. The plan was to use some wing nuts to hold the fire extinguisher cage down and just remove it when it was not needed. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 Pendennis, thanks for the advice, sadly the dumpy seems to be twice the price of the normal 2.25l one ☹️ Rob, if I'm not sorted by Curbs perhaps you could bring it along.... David, having it as removable seems like a good compromise but, and this probably sounds funny, I've always had some form of extinguisher in my 7 for the last 10 years and I guess I'd feel uncomfortable about removing a safety device just because I'm not sprinting.... IYSWIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 They are all removable Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 chris - np - but do remind me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Deslandes Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 the only problem that we've found with the floor mounted extinguisher is, no matter how carefully the passenger gets in, their feet always manage to catch the securing over-centre clips and release them. For competition use these clips must be fitted as the spring clip made up of the mounting frame cannot be guaranteed to hold the unit in place in an accident. Not sure about in the UK but in France they insist on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 No problem in UK. FWIW, I have had two fairly heavy off's, the only thing that has ever come off is wishbone and bodywork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I thought about putting it on the diff side of the passenger rear bulkhead - you know in the space next to diff behind the passengers back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Deslandes Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I think its the car going upside down that worries them and the cylinder breaking free and injuring the driver or the couplings breaking. Maybe the French drive with more abandon than the Brits 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Dave Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Quoting Paul Deslandes: the only problem that we've found with the floor mounted extinguisher is, no matter how carefully the passenger gets in, their feet always manage to catch the securing over-centre clips and release them. For competition use these clips must be fitted as the spring clip made up of the mounting frame cannot be guaranteed to hold the unit in place in an accident. Not sure about in the UK but in France they insist on it. I put electrical tape over the catches to stop them being opened by passengers accidentally. Alternatively use large jubilee clips instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 The catches are the difference between FIA and MSA. The old style catches are no longer valid for FIA (France) the bottle needs to be clapped with either bolts nuts or wing nuts. I change my extinguisher cage to fia spec this year. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted March 2, 2013 Leadership Team Share Posted March 2, 2013 Chris, mine's in the boot and I've made it removable - it's the standard Caterham issue plumbed-in jobbie. The mounting bracket is secured to the boot floor with 2 c/sunk screws, I've fitted large rivnuts in the floor to make these easily removable without messing with nuts underneath. There's also just a cable and a hose connection to remove and the whole bracket assembly can be lifted out. Unless really stuffing the boot for a tour I can live with it in, but can be removed in 10 mins if needed. My experience of footwell mounted ones is that whatever I've used to secure the clips, cable ties included, somebody always kicks them open! I like Dave's idea of maybe utilising space behind the passenger seat although I suspect the space may be limited due to the width of the tunnel rear section. Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 Stu, thanks. It's looking like the boot may end up being my favoured place with the removable option (just have to change my mindset on not having it in place when touring....perhaps carry a smaller handheld instead) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishmaninwales Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Chris My plumbed in one is like Stu's, in the boot. I fitted mine to the wooden section up against the bulkhead. For security I added extra fittings for the wood section to the car. All remained in place when deceleration tested in anger last October! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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