speedghost Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I tried to start my k-series 1.6 a the weekend for the first time in a few weeks and it turned about half a turn before giving in with a rapid clicking sound. Took the battery out for inspection and noticed it was pretty low on fluid (below the electrodes) after months on the conditioner over winter, so topped it up and seemed happy to recharge after several hours. Gave it a try today and same problem, short turn of the engine, but seizes and doesn't fire up. Also noticed I have had a few problems with the keyfob unlocking the immobiliser on last few drives. So I'm only guessing one of three things, the k-series click, the keyfob battery getting low and not entirely shutting down the immobiliser, or potentially dead battery, while indicating a full charge its possibly just dumping in one go. Does anyone have any ideas which of those it could be or any other suggestions? :) Cheers, Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 4, 2013 Member Share Posted February 4, 2013 I suggest you measure the battery voltage at rest and on cranking and report back. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative manningpaul Posted February 4, 2013 Area Representative Share Posted February 4, 2013 Might well not be right, but can"t be the "K Series Click" as the symptoms are just a click, never known it to engage the starter and then click. If the immobilser light stops flickering when you press the fob then it is working fine, if not when you switch the ignition on the red dash light will stay on all the time. As far as the last choice you could try jump leads and see what happens? although I would be inclined to make sure it is not an earthing issue? Presume you don't have an FIA cut out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Adam Whereabouts are you in West Sussex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham King Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Adam, it won't be the immobiliser, that cuts the fuel supply, so will turn over fine. I would doubt it is the "click", this is normally with the engine hot and trying to restart not on a cold engine. I suspect that your battery is goosed but to double check try jump starting the car from another. That will give you your answer. It sounds like battery has enough power to throw the solenoid but not to turn over the engine. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Pretty sure it'll be the battery. Mine does the same at the moment; did the relay mod and checked the cables and no change. Nothing rolling the 7 down a hill won't fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterg Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Quoting Jonathan Kay: I suggest you measure the battery voltage at rest and on cranking and report back. Jonathan this, if it's less than 12.7v at rest and/or drops below 9v whilst cranking it is fubbared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedghost Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Battery just showed green on the charger after several hours charge today and I measured it at about 13.5v ( usually around 14?) So gave it another try and it did its half turn before giving in, measured voltage after was about 10v but dropping until it got to about 9.4v So, and I do remember having a flat on it years ago before I got the battery conditioner, I'm guessing battery?. My bro has an older battery from his mini that should have a fairly ok charge on it, so may try jumping from that. Mark: in Wonersh near Bramley surrey now, I really must update my profile !! Thanks everyone, will keep you posted if I get it started from a spare battery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnForbes-Crisp Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Having had similar nightmare,recently,suggest 1st.replace battery,2nd,replace earth lead.John.["K " SERIES 1400]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 I've just bought a new battery, so will let you know if that changes anything when I get it. £30 ebay special, I do love a bargain 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted February 7, 2013 Member Share Posted February 7, 2013 New battery sounds sensible. But do take the opportunity to inspect and clean all the contacts in the starting circuit. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luegonigel Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Had similar problem, turned out to be corrosion of the small earthing wires under the ECU mounting posts. Took the bolts out, cleaned the lugs on the wires, cleaned the threads...........perfect! Happened after it was stood for a while too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Thanks! Another good idea to add to the check list. Think I'll have fun tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 The 'machine-gun' click is associated with a duff battery - or goosed wiring. The solenoid will throw the starter, drag the battery down to the point where it releases, the battery will recover to the point where the solenoid has enough oomph to have another go... ...and so on. The simple options for diagnosis would be to try a jump-start - and/or to short the solenoid lead to the battery positive (you will get a spark!). If the former works, but the latter doesn't - I'd point at the battery. If neither works, it's time to look further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Cleaned up all the wires, no luck... Fitted new battery, fired up first time. Happy as 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedog Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 My best guess is "goosed wiring." As per Myles. I have a not so good Banner, all earth and power leads clean and tight but little fly wire from starter motor disappearing into loom is fried, inside, so replacement on it's way. Sheathed and passing round back of starter motor. For now a wiggle if 'click' occurs, Might be your problem, Speedghost. Bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedghost Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 +1 Battery :) Finally got around to getting new one last week and installed this morning. Fired up straight away without even a stutter! which is not bad seen as it's been sitting in the garage for some time. Now to check the horn works for its mot due next month, noticed that wasn't working last drive out! cheers all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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