Bellissimmo Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 The turning circle on my SV is not dissimilar to that of an Ocean Liner - I've always assumed this was normal but I recently read a post by someone who was saying that cars with clam-shells have a better turning circle. Can some confirm/deny and give a simple explanation of why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I've heard it mentioned, and there is at least one comment in the archives. I think it's because with some combinations of wheels, tyres and suspension the turning cycle wing fouls the bodywork and this limits the lock you can apply. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnv Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 or you could just get an LSD 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Do I recall the figures are 10m for an S3 and 11m for an SV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellissimmo Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 Johnv: 😬 Suits me! But my biggest issue is that it is harder to reverse into a parking space in my SV than it is in a people carrier - guess I just need more practice  SM25T: If the 'm' stands for miles, that'd be about right  Jonathan: Thanks for the linky. I guess this is the root of the problem, although I don't have any scuff marks or dents anywhere. Presumably there is some sort of mechanical stop on the steering somewhere - maybe there's some room for adjustment there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Presumably there is some sort of mechanical stop on the steering somewhere - maybe there's some room for adjustment there? Yep, there is... Have 'adjusted' the collars on the rack a number of times 😬 First, measure the space between the wheel (or wing with Cycles) and the body on full lock to see what adjustment can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Buy a Land Rover as well, then the 7 lock looks quite good by comparison 😬 Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Dutton Phaeton like the one parked at the bottom of my garden waiting for the nest trial - full lock turn makes the inside rear wheel describe a circle of about 12" radius 😬 Took some modding to get proper ackermann (rather than inverse ackermann) and no bump steer over the full suspension movement. Involved grinder, welder and hammers  Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS2000 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Sporting trials cars have an amazing lock, if you've never experienced this form of motorsport check a local event out - good days entertainment and a really nice bunch of people! http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8ca8kWU6yjc/UKFjKN19x6I/AAAAAAAAK0w/2Ua2-ol55oU/s640/IMG_4605v2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Ah - but without the fiddle brakes they can't use the lock. Excellent fun - I have my licence do-dar from their training day - just need a car now. Just not desparate to pay more than a decent CAterham for one 😳 Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS2000 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Bri - was out watching on Sunday at the Roy Fedden Memorial event near Bath - held in woodland, nice twist to the normal field events. In relation to sales, I guess you're aware of this site? here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 With clams the steering could be turned to the full extent of the old rack (mini rack upside down I think). But, with cycle guards the guards catch on the ali bodywork and also the wing brackets catch on the anti roll bar when turned the other way. I converted from clams to cycle and this was a downside of the conversion. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the turning circle with clams is second only to a London taxi. Caterham fitted rack stops to restrict steering movement and this then became standard and was carried over when they made their own rack. I have thought about sculpting a piece of the cycle guards and reprofiling the brackets to get full lock back which would be quite handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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