evotell Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I am looking for an in dash USB socket that can be hard wired into the car, can't seem to find one any suggestions? ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 11, 2012 Member Share Posted November 11, 2012 I searched Google for panel mounting usb socket and got lots of hits. Is that the sort of thing you're looking for? NB There are a few varieties of "USB socket". Jonathan Edited by - Jonathan Kay on 11 Nov 2012 00:14:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evotell Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Quoting Jonathan Kay: I searched Google for panel mounting usb socket and got lots of hits. Is that the sort of thing you're looking for? Jonathan yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Slotter Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 You can also get USB modules that plug into lighter/12V power sockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Or here Edited by - Jason Fletcher on 11 Nov 2012 07:57:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 11, 2012 Leadership Team Share Posted November 11, 2012 Fit a 12v socket then use one of these. I've a few of them and they work fine Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 11, 2012 Member Share Posted November 11, 2012 ... we don't know the intended use. Is it only for power or will you be moving data through it? If it's only for power I'd probably use an adaptor too. Does everyone know about the EU's decision that mobile phones sold in the EU (etc) must be able to be charged from micro USB? There are similar decisions from other industry and standards bodies. That might mean that micro USB will become the de facto standard for other power supplies. Jonathan Edited by - Jonathan Kay on 11 Nov 2012 09:54:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 11, 2012 Leadership Team Share Posted November 11, 2012 Quoting Jonathan Kay: ... we don't know the intended use. Is it only for power or will you be moving data through it? If it's only for power I'd probably use an adaptor too. If it's anything more than power there must be features available for the 7 that I don't have ......... unless it's not the 7? Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Quoting Jonathan Kay: Does everyone know about the EU's decision that mobile phones sold in the EU (etc) must be able to be charged from micro USB? There are similar decisions from other industry and standards bodies. That might mean that micro USB will become the de facto standard for other power supplies. Jonathan I did. The funny thing is that Nokia still supplies a charger with a DC connector with some of their phones. The phones also have the micro-USB, which means you can charge them using another charger, but you can't use their charger for other brands phones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 And why don't Apple have to comply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Roger, they got around that by selling an adapter between apple propriety and micro USB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerBrain Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'd suggest avoiding the cigarette lighter USB module - if only because the cigarette lighter is a poor connector. If the tip spring is a bit too strong or the ground spring is too weak then the connection can be broken, which is not always obvious. I use a latching XLR socket in my 7 as a conditioner/aux power socket. I also have a XLR to cigarette lighter socket lead for plugging in things like phone chargers that I've not converted to use the XLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cskip Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 It is also worth noting that there are 2 different and separate power outputs available from USB. 12V and 5v. The input that is needed for charging the device can vary. As an example iPhones/iPod Touches did support both 5v and 12v up until 3rd Generation (going from memory here so I could get it wrong), 3rd Generation onwards used 5v only. As you can imagine this caused a few problems for third party devices (like iPod docks) that used 12v to charge and new generation iPods wouldn't charge. So this is worth considering when buying a panel mount. It would be best to try to find one that supplies both voltages to the socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 12, 2012 Member Share Posted November 12, 2012 Quoting cskip: It is also worth noting that there are 2 different and separate power outputs available from USB. 12V and 5v. The input that is needed for charging the device can vary. As an example iPhones/iPod Touches did support both 5v and 12v up until 3rd Generation (going from memory here so I could get it wrong), 3rd Generation onwards used 5v only. As you can imagine this caused a few problems for third party devices (like iPod docks) that used 12v to charge and new generation iPods wouldn't charge.I don't think so. USB voltages and pins are defined by standard. But different Apple chargers deliver different maximum currents. This mostly affects time needed to recharge a device. Previous BC discussion here and here, with links to key USB documents. Jonathan Edited by - Jonathan Kay on 12 Nov 2012 13:56:17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Slotter Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 USB (the standard): 5V (+/- 0.25V) drawing up to 0.5A (USB2) or 0.9A (USB3) per socket. Powered USB (not a standard but a proprietary system from IBM/NCR): 5V/12V/24V drawing up to 6A per socket. Edited by - Dr Slotter on 12 Nov 2012 14:10:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted November 12, 2012 Member Share Posted November 12, 2012 The USB Battery Charging Specification allows up to 1.8A. It's the maximum current (and therefore power) options within that limit that vary between the different Apple chargers. Jonathan PS: More about Powered USB, but I don't think it's relevant to this purpose. I hadn't heard of it before. Edited by - Jonathan Kay on 12 Nov 2012 14:19:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted September 28, 2013 Member Share Posted September 28, 2013 More pressure from the EU on standardised chargers Jonathan Edited by - Jonathan Kay on 28 Sep 2013 09:39:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted March 16, 2014 Member Share Posted March 16, 2014 ... and some progress on the common charger standard. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadsport06 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Just been to check what chargers are in my car. Two different USB, wife's phone charger, tablet charger, portable DVD charger, ipod charger. 6 in total! Uniformity is definitely needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Terry, It seems there are lots of posts this weekend about powering accessories - must be the impending arrival of spring. As several posts have stated, depending on what you want to power, a standard USB converter that plugs into a 12V cigarette lighter style socket may not be man enough to scare an iPad. I hate those 12V sockets and have nothing that needs one, so since I only need to power some USB devices (phone, iPad, GPS etc), I opted for the direct approach and built a custom 2 USB connection into the car's 12V system. The details are here, and it works great. All In ~$25. I positioned the connections just under the dash, near the fuse box and an easy reach, since I did not want to ruin the smooth look of my carbon dash. Mark Edited by - CA Sevener on 17 Mar 2014 05:48:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted March 17, 2014 Member Share Posted March 17, 2014 That's nice, Mark. But most people are going to buy rather than make these. Any recommendations for the following: 1 A mountable unit that includes a "cigar lighter" socket and two USB sockets, at least one of which supports 2A for charging? 2 A dongle that plugs into a "cigar lighter" socket and provides two USB sockets, at least one of which supports 2A? This sounds simple but there are lots of cheap, poor quality bits eg on eBay and Amazon, and IMO plugs and sockets from reputable suppliers often make very poor electrical contact. I'm also assuming that even when micro USB is mandated for charging many of us will use adaptor cables to the device. Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Quoting Jonathan Kay: Any recommendations for the following: 2 A dongle that plugs into a "cigar lighter" socket and provides two USB sockets, at least one of which supports 2A Jonathan THIS seems to do the job. I have a couple of them that were supplied with my recent sat nav purchase and it seems to charge the ipad nicely on the fast charge socket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Pearce Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I use one of these in my tin-tip. Seems to work fine and even comes with a 7 logo on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCol Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I fitted a Caterham cigar lighter thingy between the seats and when on the road have one of these plugged in... and when in the garage, my Ctek unit goes there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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