Touch-up Paint ... hints and tips

[Alex Birtwisle]

I am about to purchase some paint to touch up the ever increasing number of stone chips that are appearing on my nose and rear wings

 

Does anyone have any good hints or tips that I should bear in mind before I undertake this operation 🤔 🤔

 

Cheers

Alex B

 

S713UMY

1.8K Viper Blue with Black Bits

[Fred]

you wil find a needle dipped in the paint works better than the brush. this way you can get a nice blob right on the chip

 

fred

[JamesA]

Here is a link to the best touch up procedure I have seem:

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=dda3e99cf86521bd3362e75663101752&threadid=8592

[mark4newman]

I've just done a little of this..Best bet (I found) , is not to use the Brush caterham supply (I Think it was designed to do walls). Get yourself a really fine modling brush.

 

Another tip, is not to drip paint paint on your feet , and then trample it through the house

 

Su77on Se7enS

 

M100EOW....

[Nick Woods]

I'm agree with Mark, personally I find a good quality 5/0 modellers brush the best (you can get these from any good modelling shop for couple of quid). If you get too big a blob of paint on it you can always 'soak up' a little onto some kitchen paper or similar.

 

IMHO needles dont hold the paint quite so well., this is slightly off-topic but i have managed to paint the connector bridges on an AMD Athlon XP processor by hand with a 5/0 brush but couldnt manage it with a needle (its all to do with overclocking them)

 

Nick

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Edited by - Nick Woods on 22 Oct 2002 09:45:18

[Dirty Den]

And don't try to fill the chip in one go, 'layer' it up gradually. Get some decent rags and some T-Cut to smooth off each layer.

 

If you can do the job in a warm garage, even better.

 

Den

 

😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile!

[Mcalvert]

Hi James - any chance of copying the procedure from that bulletin board for us all to see without having to register first? I'd like to see their hints also.

 

Thanks,

 

Michael.

[Alex Wong1697456877]

I think I've given up this futile pursuit. The more I repaint my car, the more damage it seems to suffer.........

[JamesA]

Oops I didn't realize you had to register, here is the article I referred to, it's long but very good!

James A

 

You’d be hard pressed to find a car on the road that does not have paint chips and parking lot scratches. While good detailing practices can’t prevent nicks and scratches, repairing them will restore your car’s “like new” appearance. In this article, I discuss the methods I’ve used for years to repair chips and minor scratches.

 

What’s Possible, What Isn’t _

Touching up small nicks and scratches is well within the skill of most do-it-yourself car enthusiasts. Some nicks can be quickly repaired with a small dab of touch-up paint, while others will require more time, effort and skill. It’s important to know what you should and shouldn’t tackle based on your knowledge of paint and tools.

 

By far the easiest colors to repair are black and white. Black and white are very forgiving on shade variations. Conversely, metallic paints (those with metal flakes) can be quite difficult to match perfectly.

 

Before you get started repairing nicks and scratches, you should know what to expect. Small nicks are easy to repair by filling the nick with paint, leveling the filled area, and buffing the repair area to blend and restore luster. Repairing small scratches, from a key or shopping cart, is similar, but more time consuming. Fixing a ding (a small dent which may or may not have a nick out of the paint) is not commonly possible by the do-it-yourselfer.

Here are some other things you should know:

 

If you know your car’s factory paint code, you can purchase an exact color match touch-up paint from your local dealer. If you don’t know the factory paint code, look in your owner’s manual for the location of the code, or ask your dealer. If you have a late model car, chances are you will find a color match at your local auto parts store.

 

Use a small artist’s paint brush (#2 is ideal) or a round, wooden toothpick to apply the touch-up paint, not the fat brush included with the bottle of touch-up paint.

 

Always test the touch-up paint for color match in an inconspicuous area.

 

The area to be repaired must be perfectly clean and free of wax, rust and oils.

 

Don’t attempt a touch-up if the temperature is below 60 degrees F._

 

Here’s what you need to properly repair nicks and scratches:

* Color matched touch-up paint

* Automotive or metal primer

* Citric acid based cleaner like P21S Total Auto Wash

* Prep solvent (Prepsol) or denatured alcohol

* Foam swabs (from electronics supply) or pop swabs containing alcohol

* Meguiar’s Unigrit Sanding Block and 3M 1200 grit wet & dry sand paper

*_Medium grit hand rubbing compound

*_#2 Artist’s paint brush and round toothpicks (wood)

*_Cotton terrycloth towels

*_New Pencils with unused erasers

*_Rubber cement

*_Plastic cups

*_Blue masking tape (easy release type)

*_Large diameter paper hole punch (hand type)

 

Preparation Process _

Before applying paint, you must prepare the chip to accept paint. Although paint may adhere for a while to a chip with rust, dirt or oil, eventually the repair will fail. The preparation process begins the day before you repair the paint chips and scratches.

The afternoon before starting your chip repairs, wash your car. After washing with your normal car wash, spray the areas you plan to repair with P21S Total Auto Wash, allow to sit for a minute, then scrub well with your sponge. P21S Total Auto Wash will remove all wax and oil from your paint. Dry your car thoroughly and put it away for the night.

 

After washing your car, make up several sanding pencils. Use a hole punch to punch out a few dots from the 600 grit wet and dry paper. Apply the sandpaper dots to the end of your pencil eraser with rubber cement. Allow them to dry over night. You will use the sanding pencils to scuff-up and clean out nicks._

 

To make a chip ready for touch-up paint, you must make sure it does not have loose edges, clean it and sand it. I use a toothpick to check the edges of a chip. If loose or lifted, I use the toothpick to knock off the loose paint. To clean, I like to use denatured alcohol or Prepsol and a foam swab. I pour a little bit into a plastic cup and use a foam swab to clean the chip and surrounding area.

 

Next, I use a sanding pencil to cleanout the chip and rough-up the edges. Simply dip the sanding pencil into a cup of clean water, dab a few drops of water on the chip, and gently rotate the sanding pencil over the chip. Keep the area you sand as small as possible. Rotating the sanding pencil back and forth in your fingers 8-10 times should be enough to do the job. If the chip has exposed bare metal, or if you can see rust forming, use the edge of the pencil erasure to remove the rust. When finish sanding the chip, dry it with a terrycloth towel and clean it again with Prepsol and a foam swab.

 

The Touch-Up _

Once the damaged areas are cleaned and prepared, you can begin the touch-up itself. If a chip exposed bare metal, you must primer the chip before the color touch-up. After mixing thoroughly, pour or spray a small amount of your primer into a plastic cup. Next, use a clean toothpick to apply the primer. I do this by dipping just the tip (2-3 mm) of the toothpick unto the primer. If I get a blob, I wipe it back.

 

Next, I touch the tip of the toothpick to the center of the chip and allow the paint to flow off of the toothpick into the chip. You will be amazed how well the capillary action works. _If you prefer, you can use the #2 artist’s brush. Do not allow the primer to overflow the sides of the chip.

 

Allow the primer to dry for 2-3 hours. You can speed dry the primer with a hair dryer after allowing it to air dry for one hour. Simply wave the hair dryer 3-4 inches over the primered chip for 30-40 seconds. Do not touch the chips with your hands, as the oils from your skin will prevent the color coat from adhering.

 

Now, mix your color-matched paint thoroughly and pour a small amount into a clean plastic cup. As with the primer, use a clean toothpick or #2 artist’s brush to apply the color coat. Touch the toothpick or brush to the center of the chip and allow capillary action to pull the paint into the chip. Apply a small dab at a time and allow it to dry for 2-3 hours. You must repeat this process several times, so don’t try to fill the chip in one pass. Apply several thin layers, and you will get much better results.

 

The color touch-up process is complete when you have applied enough coats to slightly overfill the chip onto the roughed up area surrounding the chip. Once you’ve filled the chip, allow it to dry for another 24 to 48 hours. The longer the better.

 

I’m often asked if it’s necessary to apply a clear coat over chip repairs. I don’t think it’s necessary of adds any noticeable difference. If you get the proper touch-up paint from your dealer, it will match without using a clearcoat. However, if you’re a purist in persuit of perfection, substitute a clearcoat for the last 2-3 coats.

 

Level and Buff _

Until you level or mill the paint repair down to the same plane as the original paint, all you’ll have is an ugly looking blob. This is easily done using the Meguiar’s Unigrit Sanding Block, which helps remove sags, runs and other isolated defects with surgical precision. Don’t forget to soak it over night before use as the directions indicate.

 

To level your paint chips, use you finger to put a small dab of car shampoo on the chip repair for lubrication. Next, use the Unigrit Sanding Block to mill the high spot off of the chip repair. I always pull the sanding block towards me. Never rub it back and forth or in a circle. When the block dries out, dip it into your bucket of water again. Keep the area well lubricated with water and shampoo. The sanding block will dull the paint. Don’t fear, as your polish will easily restore the luster. When the surface looks level, dry it with a clean towel and inspect with your finger tips. If you can feel a high spot, it needs more work.

 

The final step is to buff out the repair with a good hand polish. I like to use 3M Perfect-It Rubbing Compound or Eagle One Scratch Remover (a medium grit compound) followed by 3M Perfect-It Swirl Mark Remover or Meguiar’s Hand Polish. Apply the compound or polish to a clean terrycloth towel or applicator pad, rub into the paint area using a short back and forth motion (not in circles), then buff out with a clean terrycloth towel. Tada! The blemish is gone.

 

 

[Nick Woods]

This is pretty good !

 

My only comment is that I've never heard of P21S Total Auto Wash and I suspect its an american product. There must be something similar available over here, probably from an automotive paint supplier - Brown Brothers seem to have lots of branches and any car body shop will probably know where the local paint suppliers are.

 

The other thing I've found useful is 2000-grit wet-and-dry paper, used wet. This can also be bought from automotive paint suppliers, Halfrauds etc only seem to go up (down?) to 1200-grit.

 

 

 

Nick

P8MRA - The green one with red wings. Which is now bent ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️ 🙆🏻 ☹️

[murph7355]

If there's loads to be done I'd be half inclined to get one of the mobile firms to do it for you.

 

They dont charge the earth, the results are truly amazing and you can do something else while it's being done.

 

Once done, Armourfend or something might be a good idea. It's not invisible (particularly if you let your car get dirty) but it works.

 

I have a leaflet from a stone chip repairer at home. Only of use if you're near Epsom, but it's a franchised firm so may have one near Cambridge...

 

 

[Alex Birtwisle]

Thanks chaps .... much appreciated

 

Andy, I dont have "many" stone chips at the moment, but would be interested in the name of the company you mention.

 

Cheers

Alex B

 

S713UMY

1.8K Viper Blue with Black Bits

[Dirty Den]

Alex, I'm not sure who Andy is thinking of, but I used ChipsAway on my tintop when some dozy bint went into the back of me and scuffed my rear bumper to bits (thankfully there's nothing behind the rear bumper on my tintop).

 

The chap who did the job was fantastic, didn't charge the earth (not that I was paying anyway!) and I doubt anyone would know that the bumper was ever scuffed.

 

Give their head office a call, and they will give you the details of the local franchisee. Tell the franchisee what is the problem, they will come and look at it. If they can do it, they will give you a price there and then, you pay and they get on with it straightaway.

 

As it's a franchise, I guess the quality of the result is down to the franchisee. I've no idea if they could do a 7 though. Would be interested to know for the future.

 

Chipsaway are here

 

Den

 

😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile!

 

Edited by - Dirty Den on 23 Oct 2002 13:59:09

[JamesA]

I have used the procedure above with both good and bad results. All of the bad results were from using too course of a grit when I sanded. My advice is to never use anything courser than 2000 grit and take your time when sanding. Go very slow and easy use lots of water. Having just finished my build I had one bash on the right rear wing I am in the process of touching up. P21S car wash is just a liquid car wash, and any good quality liquid car wash will substitute.

Jim