Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 I have now managed to get some pics of my paint problem up on my site. www.x777cat.com If you have problems getting to it please pase the following line into your address box. http://www.ememories.com/pf/default.asp/PF=949A9485AEC6A393 This will take you straight in. Let me know what you think. Thanks Simon X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 I have had a look at the pics. It seems to me that the nose cone fastners we probably not properly de-greased before painting. The mark on the nose cone looks like where the front edge of the bonnet has benn rubbing. I am not sute about the marks on the scuttle but again it could be down to the rear edge of the bonnet rubbing. Are there any areas where there is not possible contact that are flaking as I suspect that Caterham my say the same. It's a bummer all the same Simon and I hope you get a successful result. Good luck Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 By the way simon a couple of things If you ever run out of web space try www.i12.com, they offer 800 Meg free! I am thinking of creating a web and do you have any objections to putting a link to you site on it? Cheers Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Line Components Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 IMHO .. 1. Scuttle and nosecone abrasion by badly fitting bonnet. If built by Caterham, they should get the bonnet fitting so it rests on the foam not the paint. 2. Side panel abrasion by bottom edge of bonnet. A design feature ? The bonnet is pulled down onto the top of the side panels so I think paint damage is inevitable. Just an opinion though - good luck with Caterham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Author Share Posted October 18, 2000 Looking at it logically I think that Caterham should re-spray the front nose and touch up the scuttle. Then use some sort of foam tape to protect the paintwork in these locations from chipping. I beleive that a problem like this should not be showing itself after only 6 weeks of ownership. If this much paint is coming off now then in 12 months it is likely to be in a sorry state indeed. Simon X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Line Components Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 Yep - I think you have summed it up ! All you have to do is convince Caterham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Author Share Posted October 18, 2000 Peter - no problem put a link on there by all means. Minty - Caterham did biuld it - I think the problem is that the bonnet is not resting on the foam. This could be cured by me putting new foam on there but all that would do is cover the damaged paint - I would like the paint in tip top condition before I apply any more foam strips. Thanks Simon X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 This is the first time that I have seen the Dzu's painted - normally they are left unpainted. So this might indicate a second coat of paint was required to fix a damage problem. This might also be indicated by the damage to the scuttle/front nose. However, the damage on the mating surface of the bonnet to the body appears quite common as the two surfaces are pulled together by springs and there is nothing to stop them chaiffing. From the reg no (x777cat) I assume this is a new car from Caterham, and I would complain about the Dzu's and nose/scuttloe areas. Good luck, Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Author Share Posted October 18, 2000 What is a DZU? X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgracing Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 Simon, Serves you right for getting the car painted I say. All that extra weight.wink.gif I wouldn't worry about the non-visible bits but it's a pretty poor show. I wasn't go to pay the 600GBP plus for a paint job, especially as it means further expense when replacing wings etc. (It costs more to paint a wing than the wing costs). It certainly looks like the bonnet fit is way off. My foam is showing light signs of wear after 6 months 'enthusiastic' driving and numerous bonnet off sessions. BTW a Dzuz is the fastner with the big slot that only needs a 1/2 turn to lock it into that springy thing inside, as in the first shot. Davebo C7 CAR Oh, and get some work done. wink.gif Edited by - davebo on 18 Oct 2000 11:40:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Author Share Posted October 18, 2000 I think it cost me £700 + for my paint as they said the colour was non std. Back to work - indeed, lunch first! Simon X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACR Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 Looks like your bonnet has not been positioned correctly when you've done up the clips. Being a bit sad I've realised that in order to get my bonnet stripe lined up nicely there is a certain order to doing up the clips...... As the inside edge if the bonnet is rolled back if this is not on the foam then it will contact the paint - Try fitting the bonnet so front and rear rolled bits are on the foam - if not possible then get some foam and put it in the right place. Can't see a problem with painted Dzuz - mine are and work so rather not worry... Perhaps your special paint is not very tough? I got a pot of touch up paint with mine - try and use this on nose cone / scuttle. Put insulation tape along side rails and edges of bonnet. Stops scratching when taking on and off. Only get a decent repaint done before selling it - it's not going to rust so a quick touch up will be fine. i did this where my jack caused a dent, nobody else has ever noticed... Piers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 Simon, If you get no joy from Caterham, the contractor they use is TSK Autos - contcat Tony "the brush" Whiting. Tony is a very reasonable guy and I am sure he will put the problem right (at a cost which cust out the middle man) for you if Caterhma do not come up with an answer. TSK's phone number is 01322 441604 - They are in Erith Arnie Edited by - fast arnie on 18 Oct 2000 13:11:25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dartmoor7 Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 It looks to me like the foam strip needs to be closer to the 'step' in the nosecone and the scuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Author Share Posted October 18, 2000 At the moment I will see what Caterham come up with, the damage in my opinion has been caused by the biuld person miss placing foam strips. This is Caterhams problem which they will hopefully restore. I dont want to touch it up at the moment just incase Caterham say I have made it worse. I think they are looking at getting the paintwork restored by a local paintshop which will be overseen by a regional caterham dealer. We will have to see eh! Si X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipper man Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 Simon Don't worry about the DZUS fasteners - they are all painted, and the paint will crack off. Only cure would be to replace with new brass ones. I wouldn't bother. The paint problems all look like abraision due to the bonnet being either slightly out of shape, or resting on rubber strips that are too thin. Very easily fixed. Once that is done do what others suggest with insulating tape. It's the only way that you'll keep it looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 18, 2000 Author Share Posted October 18, 2000 To be honnest I did apply insulation tape to the bottom bonnet rails after having the car for 2 weeks - it has probibaly prevented a lot of the paint being damaged. As for the nose/scuttle I will have to wait and see what caterham say. Thanks Simon X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted October 18, 2000 Share Posted October 18, 2000 I'm missing Len Unwin already... We've never had one do that. (transl: B*gger, someone's noticed.) mode> FWIW, mine developed very similar marks. Its had worse since, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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