Laurence Wilson Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Were there different types? Which one should I look for for a Seven. Can the desired variant be found on both mk1 and 2 'scorts? Ta very much ! Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 11, 2002 Author Share Posted October 11, 2002 Asking how to distinguish between different types would be clever, too 😳! Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonycaterham Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Yes two types of Axle were fitted to the Ersort Mark 1 & 2 the salisbury type and the Timken type. In simple terms the Timken axle is the one you want. The difference is pretty clear. The Timken axle has the removable diff carrier identified by the forward facing bolt on differential assembly i.e the diff can be removed from the axle complete with carrier. The Salisbury diff is removed through the rear of the diff. as the diff cover is removable. The timken axle was found on 1100, 1300 and 1600 and 2000 escorts cars and on some vans. The Salisbury one was only found on 1100 and 1300 escorts. the timken diff also has a wider range of ratios Hope this helps Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 It's exactly what I wanted to hear 😬. Thanks. Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Good anorak stuff here. All my formative garage years were spent under Escorts and I've never seen anything but what you call a Timken axle and I call an English axle (diff comes out forwards with the axle nose). The mkI escort Haynes manual only lists this type. The only other axles fitted in my experience were what I call Atlas axles fitted to rally cars because they're wider and stronger and sourced from 3.0 litre Capris. These have a cover on the back and the diff mechanism comes out thro here, what you call Salisbury type. Regarding the names, of course Timken and Salisbury are the manufacturing companies while Atlas / English are descriptions so most likely Timken made the English axles and Salisbury made the Atlas. The conclusion doesn't change though, Peardrop you need an English / Timken axle. If you go in a scrapyard and find an escort, mkI or mkII, I think it's 99.99% likely that it'll have one of these in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 Actually, I've already got the mechanicals of a mk2 Sport sitting in my garage ! That's another story though. Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 Who should I see about aquiring / fitting brackets et al. I couldn't weld if my life depended on it 😳. I'm thinking ahead at the moment mind... I assume Caterham will be able to accomodate me if I say the rear axle will be off an Escort come time to order a starter kit? Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 peardrop, It is in your intrest when ordering a starter kit that you say that you will run a Escort axle becuase the tunnel needs modifying to have a little bit more space between chassis and propshaft also if you know what engine, exhaust & suspension you will have caterham will draw the holes on the ali panels. BTW the Salisbury is far more heavy than the English axle. Edited by - elie boone on 12 Oct 2002 18:16:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 ...caterham will draw the holes on the ali panels. How kind ! But I'll still mess it up 😳! Peardrop Edited by - Peardrop on 12 Oct 2002 18:59:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 The best bet for brackets would be to take it to one of the companies that Caterham use / used to mod these axles when they were available as an option. They will have the jigs to fit them in the right place. Not sure who did the Ford axles but I know SPC in Redditch still do mod the Ital axles for current live axle cars so I'd try them first, 01527 894232. Also worth asking Arch, fair chance they're set up to do it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 13, 2002 Author Share Posted October 13, 2002 Thanks, I'll keep those in mind. Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonycaterham Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 I had my escort axle modified by Arch Motors did an excellent job and powder coated axle as well. Cost about £150. The contact is Bruce Robinson who is a really helpful guy soory do not have phone number to hand but is is in Low Flying. I did my own mods to the transmission tunnel Email me if I can be of any help. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwaters Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 I am currently having a Ford axle built up by HT Racing. They box section the axl instead of the big plate that Arch do (SPC send axles to Arch to have the mountings and strengthening fitted I believe). HTR are on 01474 872 888 Phil Waters You mean you can drive these? I thought it was just there to polish 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 14, 2002 Author Share Posted October 14, 2002 How much is that costing, Phil? I'd heard about box section strengthening before and decided I wanted to go down this route. Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilsjuke Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 i used a mexico axle but used 1100 type brake parts as these have manuel adjusters the early auto adjusters were cr## arch did the bracket work, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted October 14, 2002 Author Share Posted October 14, 2002 Thanks for the tip . Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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