christophe Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Found a Honda S2000 engine, 2 liters 240HP...Anyone has already fitted one into a cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Might be an idea to check your original post. And buy a shoe horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dent Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 There is definitely one in a Westfield. If my engines ever goes pop, then this would be on the top of the replacement list. 4 wheels on my 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Why? Aren't they quite heavy and "pretty" peaky? And that's if they fit in a Caterham which from the photo on the other thread looked less than certain. Stick to K power Andrew, or check out the Duratec stuff and give Janet's ears a rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Talk to Jonny or Andy at BookaTrack, they've fitted one to their nutter westfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dent Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Andy 1. dont want my engine to go pop. 2. would look to go in the Westie 1st 3. Not sure about the weight difference. 4. 240 bhp with out messing about. 9k revs. 5. its only a dream 4 wheels on my 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino ferrana Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Not a fantastic engine for Torque as it produces the same as an R500 engine. That said that itsn't a huge problem in a car as light as a Caterham. With some mods the engine could easily push out a lot more power (like the car in the fast and the furious). I have heard the engine is very tall for a Caterham engine bay and would require a sizeable hump. That said I am sure it would be a very interesting project and I am sure some seven club members would love to be involved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 IIRC, AndyT from Bookatrack.com was considering this at one point. How far he got I don't know, but I have a vague recollection of discussing this with him at Llandow a few months back. Perhaps a post on one of the Bookatrack forums would get some additional info? Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Den Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 And I've just seen your other post on the same subject. 🙆🏻 Den 😬 - Self portrait - still unable to remove the smile! Edited by - Dirty Den on 8 Oct 2002 18:36:29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julians Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Physically it fits (just), but its a bit tall, so would need some sort of bonnet bulge, or a dry sump so the engine could be lower in the car. If you're using the S2000 belhousing and gearbox, you'd need to either modify the footwells or modify the bellhousing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Be different and just do it. Home of BDR700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 8, 2002 Share Posted October 8, 2002 Having been on track with the Bookatrack "thing" then I can say DO IT! There is also plans to fit one in an elise. I am sure I read somewhere the other day that there is one kicking around with 280bhp.... and plans for 300... See X777CAT here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul.davis Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Duratech will sort this nonsense out! Paul Zeeeeeeetec . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Simon Look at www.prototyperacing.com. Honda engines in Elise/Exige. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 My friend, the german Wernder Schneider build the S 2000 include the 6-speed in his Caterham. The complete unit is heavier than the Vaux. Car runs very good. Look here: http://www.superseven.ch/neue_seite_171.htm Regards Joachim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Those Honda Powered Exiges look the business!! WANT ONE! See X777CAT here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Are they iron blocked then ? If they're heavier than a vx I would not suggest doing it ! Home of BDR700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aph Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 how come they're so heavy? I'm guessing honda have gone for a burst proof strong but heavy unit? Does anyone have the actual weights for the type r engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophe Posted October 9, 2002 Author Share Posted October 9, 2002 OK.Seems with a strong shoe horn that would fit. I currently drive a VVC and want a track day only car. Should I use the Honda gearbox or use the Caterham six? Apparently using the Honda requires substantial modification. I can lower the engine as much as possible, but going for a dry sump is probably a good idea. Anyone knows would could supply this? For the happy few which have already done that, what have been the technical issues, if any, or is it reasonably straightforward? Because I would start from a new chassis, I need to prepare the specs. What would you advise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 No, fully alloy. But strong block and a lot of parts make the unit so heavy. Same problem as the Duratec. Regards Joachim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 But surely the power advantages can overcome this? Besides an extra 30kg is not the end of the day. See X777CAT here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 Simon - perhaps you should buy a BMW. An extra 30kg is not the end of the day? Really. People should be barred from this forum for such comments. If it can be avoided it should be. These cars are what they are because they are lightweight, so adding it unnecessarily is silly and a distinctly backward step. Adding power to overcome said unnecessary deficiency is also not necessarily the best solution. Loiseau - if all you want is a track day car you would be *much* better served with a bike engine. I would guess that a suitably tuned bike engine would be available for less than the cost of your S2000 engine. The gearbox (6speed sequential) is included and the whole lot will weigh a fraction of the S2000/Caterham 6 spd combo. It's a fairly well understood path to tread too, so you don't get lumbered with all the headaches associated with doing something that few others have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 I learned at the last weekend. Heavy cars are :-( I love my Vaux, but sometimes the car and the driver is to heavy. S 2000. The owner is fully happy with his car. I build the engine himself in the car. For road it will be perfect. Very, very strong! But a lot o work and a lot of modifications on chassis and oil pan. Regards Joachim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N Blandin Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 I don't know about the 2000 motor in a seven , but that Civic Type R motor and box in a mini from last months ccc looked a lot of laughs for not much cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted October 9, 2002 Share Posted October 9, 2002 if all you want is a track day car you would be *much* better served with a bike engine If our experiences of BECs on trackdays are anything to go by then the massive failure rate of these engines surpasses any K(lick) Series powered cars ! The power delivery in our s2K powered Westy seems far better than the peaky nature of a R500 engine.. plus the s2k is 240bhp out of the box without any tweaks. so in theory should last far longer than the Minister engine We have already approached Caterham with a long list of requirements to build a Cat from scratch using this engine but a) they aren't really interested in helping and b) the costs are way too high when you actually manage to get them to give you an idea Next port of call will be Westf1eld, for a new kit Andy BookaTrack.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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