anthony1956 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 This post is for me to look up in future because I can never remember the code. http://www.tayna.co.uk/53034-Banner-Caterham-Battery-P8369.html Voltage: 12 Volts Capacity: 30 Ah CCA: 300 A Length: 187 mm Width: 128 mm Height: 165 mm Cust. Rating: Caterham Starter Battery Battery Dimensions 187mm x 128mm x 165mm (LxWxH) Battery Power Ratings 30Ah 300CCA CHECK IF: This battery is filled and charged ready for use The Tudor I found worked ok for some years as an alternative is/was: TUDOR Bike Code Y60-N24L-A 12V28AH Both the above I Fitted to S3 R500K CHECK IF: This battery is filled and charged ready for use other manufacturers' suitable batteries codes would be very helpful to know as on tour makes like Exide and the one beginning with V abound. Anthony http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery http://batteryuniversity.com/ Edited by - anthonym on 11 Sep 2011 09:08:59 Edited by - anthonym on 11 Sep 2011 09:10:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbird Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Looks like these two VARTA batteries would also fit the bill http:// code 530 030 030/ and code 530 400 030 Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 http://www.batterymasters.co.uk/Product-Ultramax-NP20-12,-12V-20Ah-For-UPS,-Jump-Starter,-Golf-Caddies-etc_1382.aspx SLAUMXNP20-12 Our Price: £ 29.40 Average Rating: Ultramax NP20-12, 12v 20Ah Sealed Lead-Acid High Capacity Battery for use with Emergency Lighting, General Electronics, Medical, Mobility, Security, Uninterruptible Power Supply. Dimensions: L(mm) W(mm) H(mm) 181 76 167. Can be used to replace Yuasa NP17-12, NP18-12B, Power-Sonic PS12180 with high Capacity. my notes L(mm) W(mm) H(mm) 181 76 167. Length: BANNER 187 mm ABOVE 181 Width: BANNER 128 mm ABOVE 76= 60% Of width of Banner shame it's not 50%, could fit two. Height: BANNER 165 mm ABOVE 167 Edited by - anthonym on 7 Sep 2011 20:15:42 Edited by - anthonym on 7 Sep 2011 20:18:59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 YT7B-BS x 2 but 6.5ah. 150 65 93 mmL/W/H http://www.yuasaeurope.com/images/uploads/uk/downloads/YBSU26605_Yuasa_Motorcycle_Cat_09_A4.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Not sure that Battery Master one will work in a car. OK, it might get you home but that's not what it's for. I think it's more of a deep cycle battery (leisure type) Car batteries are designed to deliver massive current for short periods of time (starting) but never to be regularly cycled to flat and recharged. Leisure types are different - things like invalid cars, UPS, boats/caravans apply light loads but for longer periods and expect to be run flat and recharged. The design is different. I suspect that if you ask a leisure battery to start engines it won't last very long. I'd be checking the spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 BOSS. Apparently it is the same battery as this one here but re badged. As discussed in this thread here Regards Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 If it's an automotive spec then well and good, it will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I hope so BOSS I ordered one today 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 sorry, I should have said I had swiped the link from the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Quoting anthonym: sorry, I should have said I had swiped the link from the other thread. No probs Anthony. Sorry for the hijacking your thread For your info the Battery masters one weighs 5.95kg which is lighter than the Varley red top (6.1kg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 150g lighter? Steady on. My morning cup of coffee weighs more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 no probs.. I was pretty much talking to myself anyway 😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignity Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Quoting batteredoldsupersport: 150g lighter? Steady on. My morning cup of coffee weighs more than that. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn LUYCK 1 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I always just ask for a 53030...whatever brand. Last time I paid 50£, lasted for 3 years without any problems until I discharged it 100%, that killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 now that is very interesting, I have been wondering since (was it ian) someone said the "code" is in fact descriptive for every maker of battery. Do we know what it means? the code I mean "53030" , when I have seen it written it has been "053030". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 It is indeed a code for a number of, or maybe all, manufacturers. I am guessing that one "30" refers to capacity in Ah. I know my 7 came with a Varta battery that had 53030 or 53034 written on it, and the same code was on the Banner one I fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 I never thought to google the code: http://www.accu-24.de/de/GEL-Batterien/Motorradbatterien-/-Rollerbatterien/http-wwwaccu-24de-de-Motorrad-Batterien-GEL-MOTORRAD-ROLLER-BATTERIEN-GEL-53034 Product Description Fits 53030, C60-N30-A-30-BS SLA12 Motorcycle Battery Gel 12 Volt Battery Types 12V 30 Ah Dimensions: L x W x H = 187 x 130 x 170 mm Drawing / Pole: + - Design: Starter battery - maintenance free, gel technology - completely closed. Condition: filled and charged Accessories: Screw terminal ____________________________________________________________________ http://www.accu-batteries.at/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=412&flypage=flypage.tpl&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1 12V 30AH AEN in A: 380 Dimensions in mm LxWxH 177 x 130 x 170 Weight in kg: 9.3 POL: + - Here's a clue "530 power on 34" not sure what it means though. AND there seem to be other codes presented as also suitable: Product Description Fits 53030, C60-N30-A-30-BS SLA12 andSLA12 If I read this correctly the following is a list of ALL similar batteries and their codes: 53030 GEL 53034 C60-N30-A C60-N30L-A SLA12-30-BS 52515 6IF130 524086 Y60-N24L-A Y60-N24AL-B 525 015 022 Varta 530 030 030 YB60-N24L-A in fact here translated from german: Specifications: System: Pb Voltage: 12 volts Capacity: 30'000mAh Dimensions: L x W x H: 187 x 130 x 170 mm Weight: 8.3 kg Identical types of batteries: 53 030 GEL 53 034 C60-N30-A C60-N30L-A SLA12-30-BS 52 515 6IF130 524 086 Y60-N24L-A _____________this is the Tudor in my OP. Y60-B N24AL 525 015 022 Varta 530 030 030 YB60-N24L-A Oddly the Banner 53034 is not on the above list: 53034 this is a standard Banner Dimensions: L x W x H: 187 x 130 x 170 mm am I looking at the wrong code or just one very similar.. more tea I think. Gtraet, the one mentioned as the bb" killer" : Ultramax NP20-12, 12v 20Ah (L(mm) W(mm) H(mm) 181 76 167) that code is not on the list There's a manufacturer's shipping code on almost every automobile battery. Since the life you'll get from the battery is dependent on when it was made, not necessarily when it was put into service, you'll want to check this code so you can be sure the battery you buy is relatively "fresh" and hasn't been sitting on the shelf for a couple of years. The shipping code usually appears on a sticker on the battery or a stamp burned into the battery case itself. The code is a string of letters numbers, but all the real information you need is in the first two characters. Usually, the code starts with a letter that corresponds with the month--'A' for January through 'L' for December (some manufacturer's codes omit 'I'; for them, 'M' indicates December). The second character of the code is a numeral that stands for the year. Thus, a code starting 'A2' indicates that the battery was shipped in January 1992; 'B2' indicates February 1992, and so on. (Delco reverses the letter and the number; a Delco code starting with '2C' indicates the battery was shipped in March 1992.) so must find the codes for this millenium. Edited by - anthonym on 11 Sep 2011 09:08:31 Edited by - anthonym on 11 Sep 2011 09:14:59 I've given up with this for now. Edited by - anthonym on 11 Sep 2011 09:28:43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 They will be the same for this millenium, manufacturers know that the things don't last 10 years so 1 digit is enough. We do something similar in food, with a Julian date code. I have one such here, a jar of olives coded "Lot 1210" which will mean "day 210 of year 1". Day 1 is 1 Jan, 2 is 2nd Jan, etc, through to 365 on Dec 31. So without access to a calendar, 210 is about July sometime. We only use one year code as clearly you aren't going to mistake 10 year old olives for fresh ones. The thing with batteries is that any car or bike battery will work if you get the size, capacity and terminal pattern right. Some of your equivalents here are not real equivalents, they only have 20Ah. Now that will get you home and run you about for a while but it's a smaller capacity battery and one day when it's cold and the thing doesn't want to start immediately you may struggle. If you are accepting that degree of compromise then ANY car battery you can cram in the tray and connect up will do the job when you find yourself with a dead battery 100 miles from home in a town with a car spares shop. If it's 35 Ah, 25 Ah, if you have to pack it out with a bit of wood, blimey if push comes to shove and you have to fit new battery connectors to make it work then you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 If you are accepting that degree of compromise then ANY car battery you can cram in the tray and connect up will do the job when you find yourself with a dead battery 100 miles from home in a town with a car spares shop. If it's 35 Ah, 25 Ah, if you have to pack it out with a bit of wood, blimey if push comes to shove and you have to fit new battery connectors to make it work then you will. this was indeed my agenda on each occasion: anything that will fit. I also carry terminal changers - round to square. btdt. more like 1,000 miles from home though. 100 Miles is usually a trailer job. Those batteries for 29 quid (that other thread) , could buy one every year and still be better off than a new banner at swiss prices. of course a swiss banner that works would also be a bonus. (SM25 refers) I carry a booster battery and an ordinary battery that I can use if the Mondeo gives up. Also I just like having to much battery backup. I have found that in my experience when all battery power is gone one is truly helpless, and since I tour alone I am a bit more sensitive than most to this perhaps - trying to push start the 7 alone on an unmade up road with 300 metres left to the cliffs (also 300 metres high) being attacked by millions of mosquitoes as my gps battery my phone battery are dying.. left me a bit dented. I even carry the very heavy booster with me in the 7, but in the absence of recent problems I am wondering about maybe carrying something smaller that could replace the banner on demand - if I could recharge it while driving so much the better. Also has occurred to me that getting acid is much easier than the battery itself, and the weight difference is huge. One can tell immediately just by picking it up. So carrying an empty lead acid battery that fits (even a banner) is another possibility. No shelf life as far as I know, until the acid goes in. Acid can be had from all sorts of bike, lawnmower, garage, golf cart places (golf club on a sunday?) - and the result is an instantly fully charged battery. incidentally I meant I had given up with the whole thread idea, as it was doing my head in. However, have now had a cuppa and feel recharged :-) after sm25's experience (and 100 miles of fuel) I have added a hydrometer to my mobile kit, because we always blame the battery and so often it's not - click of death etc. especially when the battery is not very old. finding a car battery that fits is much more difficult than I would ever have expected - though I speak of rural parts outside GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 My get out of jail free card is a cheap and scruffy pair of jump leads that have saved the day many times. I paid £1 for them 20 years ago. Honestly. They live in the emergency repair bag, or you can stuff them down the seat. Even with a terminally buggered battery they will get you going. You just need to chat up a passer-by, not hard with a car as distinctive as a 7 even in the middle of nowhere. Alternatively if you tour a lot, and a replacement is EU30, why not just buy one every 2 years? Keep the old one on a charger till you know the replacement is good, (by no means a given with a Banner) and the chances of it failing are close to zero. The breakdown services report that 90-odd % of breakdown callouts are for either punctures or dead batts. If you can fix or avoid these then it has to be a biggy to stop you in your tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted September 11, 2011 Author Share Posted September 11, 2011 where I was there weren't any passing cars, I was rescued by two Portuguese ladies who came to find me after I called and begged. Very very good of them really. Having said all of this, I am the first culprit in having blamed my battery and then it turns out to be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I tought that the 530 30 has its + & - the other way round to a 530 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony1956 Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) yes it does, exactly the right info I wish I had put in the op. edit: and no longer can. 😉 Edited December 3, 2023 by anthonym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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