skydragon Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 As per title. Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 The car damned-well looks better, for starters! And I think it was quite likely that my LF narrow-tracks were deformed after the incident at Anglesey, so yeah, widetrack really did make a difference ! 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Oh, and if I fit WT to my Westie, allegedly I get seriously-improved steering-lock too 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 It's easier to get in to clean.................... It looks good.................. You can say: I've got wide track...................... As said by someone at Caterham when I asked does the aero widetrack have any benefit?: Ask the marketing dept! If you're a skilled track driver then maybe; if you need new wishbones then go for it; if not then save some cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Procter Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 My own personal belief from having raced both narrow- and widetrack cars is that it makes very little difference to the handling, if that's what you're after. Changing springs/dampers has a much more pronouced effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugene Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 On my original suspension setup I changes the springs/dampers and the effect was huge - much improved... Jump forward a few years and I then went to widetrack... the change felt almost as big! I think it well worth going for personally 😬 Obviously you will need to change the springs and dampers, so kill two birds with one stone! Small Boy - with Loud Toy! Co-founder of the BOG Club See Eugene here and see what I do here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydragon Posted December 22, 2010 Author Share Posted December 22, 2010 Thanks for comments. Fwiw...I'm not interested in how it affects looks, cleaning or bragging rights ...I'll leave that to the pollishers... I'm only interested in how/if it affects performance in terms of handling and ultimately lap/hillclimb times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Paul Richards Posted December 22, 2010 Area Representative Share Posted December 22, 2010 I only have experience of a narrow track car, but I know some sprinters who post good times with narrow track. I suspect the only real difference is that the wings don't foul the indicator pods. Paul Richards Area Representative - L.A.D.S. (Lancashire and District Sevens) LADS Website Growing old is compulsory - Growing up is optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Village Idiot Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 For me when the car is really warmed up you can lean on the front end much harder having had both types on track. I think widetrack comes into it's own when the whole of the rest of the car is set up well. Dicks Saw blades here How to drive a car here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Chris Will wide track stop you spinning at or before Paddock at a wet Curborough I doubt it, just ask the Comp Sec 😬 😳 Edited by - Ray Snoates on 22 Dec 2010 22:52:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wilcx Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 As a simple bolt on then in a word ....NO...but when combined with decent Dampers and Springs and correctly set up with the rest of the car then YES. What's your current set-up - there may be better return in your unvestment by having the car correctly set - up so you have a known datum to work to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_Russell Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I believe narrow track is usually perceived to be better than widetrack in the wet!? Q41 ACF Classic #98 My Race Videos Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskossie Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Any opinions on the S3 "Super Wide-track," as marketed by Freestyle? Alaskossie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydragon Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 What's your current set-up suspension wise - nitrons amd eibach springs, de dion and narrow track. Compomotive wheels with Khumos or ZZRs. 15mm of rake, 65mm under sump, 2deg camber, slight touch of toe out, corner weighted (across diagonals), Edited by - skydragon on 23 Dec 2010 08:40:33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLimits Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 I think you'll find I lost it in the middle of Paddock actually As for Chris' I fear there is no hope unless he takes up Scaletrix 😬 www.7tips.co.uk - for all 7 related parts and upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydragon Posted December 23, 2010 Author Share Posted December 23, 2010 As for Chris' I fear there is no hope unless he takes up Scaletrix Cheeky b&&std 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 If fitted and geo set correctly widetrack will be better. and it will be better than narrow track in the wet Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Hemsley Posted December 23, 2010 Share Posted December 23, 2010 It will reduce sump clearance on steep cambered roads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain A Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Going widetrack made a big difference to my car. I take the point about having everything else well set up, time spent on this is not wasted. It isn't just a bolt on improvement. Front end on my car has a lot more grip than it used to which has improved lap times and car balance. One of the Duratectives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin J Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 My garage is narrow so it would be a right pain trying to get round the car if I had wide track. I doubt if an SV wouldeven fit through the door! 😳 Do you lose some ground clearance if you have widetrack? I have 110mm from the sump to the ground which is a lot for a caterham but with the state of our roads I'm glad to have the safety margin. I find the handling sublime especially with better tyres now fitted but on bumpy corners it can be rather twitchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Its all in the head. If you beleave wide track is faster it will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 wider track = less weight transfer = faster cornering using the available traction from the tyre. superwide from freestyle will provide an even greater advantage. There is a reason 2010 Formula ford corner faster than the historical formula ford. every little mod helps here is my Duratec R .... C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 The wider you go, the more critical the angle of the shock absorber will be, therefore the wide track will be a improvement if it's combined with inboard shock absorbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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