Best FIA race harness?

[skydragon]

The 6-point drivers harness in my car has had it's day, as it's started to fray a bit (as pointed out by a scutineer at my last competition. Where the shoulder straps have been rubbing against the inside edge of the tillet seat holes).

 

The harness was never going to pass cleanly through the tillet seat holes with my seating position and shoulder height... so it now doesn't have any holes... as it's been cut down, with the tillet's 'headrest' section removed, to be a high-backed seat (all the polishers out there, stop whincing at the thought of your shiney tillets being butchered with a dremel 😬)

 

Question is what FIA harness to replace it with? fwiw I'm not using HANS.

 

The Willans Silverstone LDT6 6-point harness looks a good candidate

 

Views/advice?

 

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[Terry Field]

Have a look at Sabelt - they do a good range which can be tailored to some extent

 

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[skydragon]

Thanks.

 

I had a look at sabelt, but their range seems to be fitted with hook/eye fastenings, rather than the metal tab with bolt hole as per std caterham fitting. (fine for a saloon car but not best for Caterham imho)

[peterg]

I had a Willans harnes in the single seater with Silverstone alloy adjusters on the shoulder straps, great quality and very easy to use the adjusters after a run up the hill to give some slack in the paddock

 

 

 

 

[Drifter]

I have Willans in my car and they seem better quality compared to the Caterham branded (Luke) harnesses in the old car.

 

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[Paul Richards]

I have Sabelt in my 7 with normal "metal tab and bolt" fittings. If you tell them you want for a Caterham 7 they will make to correct dimensions.

Webbing is not as thick as Willans, but this makes them far easier to adjust and they are considerably less expensive. They are however fitted with adjusters on lap belt which pull down to tighten rather than up. I manage this OK by adjusting and then clipping together with lots of breathing in. They may however be able to revers this adjustment for you if you ask.

I found them v. helpful.

 

Paul Richards

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[skydragon]

Thanks for feedback

 

They are however fitted with adjusters on lap belt which pull down to tighten rather than up

That was why I originally looked at willans harness, as I understand the lap strap adlusters work by pulling inwards towards the central fastner hub

[The Village Idiot]

I have Willans - always seem faster/easier to adjust/do up than when I climb into a Luke equipped car.

 

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[jerrypike]

another vote for willans

had to replace my willans harnesses this year as going out of date. had very specific requirements so went to the factory for a fitting: knocked up 2 different lap belts to try within minutes and had the finished custom belts to me in under a week

very helpful and knowledgable

 

jerry

[skydragon]

Looks like Willans it is then.

[Mark w]

Do Schroth do anything suitable ? neat belts in the GT3

[CaterBram]

Has anyone tried the Titon harness from Prima ?

 

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[mav]

If you speak nicely to the guys at Luke they'll do you a good discount on a 6 point suitable for the 7.

 

Better still go to their stand at Autosport and speak to them face to face and place your order!

[nickh7]

Still cant see why you dont just fit the Caterham ones

 

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[skydragon]

Still cant see why you dont just fit the caterham ones

 

Because i would like a harness with pull up adjusters on the lap straps rather than pull down adjusters as per the CC supplied ones.

 

When i'm sat in the car (tillet seat) it is vitually impossible to tighten the lap strap firmly, as pulling down on the adjuster is extremely difficult.

 

Ok for road use, but difficult to use for competition use, where ideally you want to tighten/slacken fully between runs.

 

As Richard says above

I manage this OK by adjusting and then clipping together with lots of breathing in

that's what i have to do at the moment and exactly what i want to avoid.

 

Order placed with Willans

 

 

 

Edited by - skydragon on 24 Dec 2010 16:46:55

[skydragon]

In the end i didn't order a Willans harness (although I'm sure there products are very good).

 

I went for a 6 point Schroth Caterham hybrid II slipstop harness. ( see here. As far as i understand this harness was designed/developed in uk for Caterham racing use.

 

Having just fitted it to the car, i can strongly recommend it. The quality is amazing, but more importantly the lap stap pull-up T-bar adjusters make tightening the lap staps tightly very easy and the adjusters are fully accessible even with a tillet seat. The crutch stap arrangement is very easy to fasten. Sitting in the car i can get the harness significantly tighter than i could do with the CC (luke) harness, although to be fair this is a more expensive product.

 

You can use this harness with or without a HANS device.

 

The lap straps are 2" and the 3" shoulder straps have a small grooved rubber pad on them which works with Schroth's HANS device's slipstop system.