jimmy1960 Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 I am trying to install a Duratec engine in a S3 caterham but the starter is in the way, not sure if the chassis is wrong or I need to do something. Any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Hi, what engine mounts (who made them) and do you have the passenger footwell compartment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1960 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 Sorry - this is my first post. All are supplied by caterham as part of the kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1960 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 missed the pasanger foot well yes. and that and the starter are in the way. Nearly lost a finger on Friday to the engine, just suffered fractured tip of ring finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Then, if they clash your have to pop the alloy footwell extension off and plate it as I did Surprised by this though as I thought the factory engine mounts secured the engine about 30mm further forward than the other ones on the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 is this a new kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 A few questions for you: What bell housing? Metric or imperial chassis? have you got the right mounts? Either C400 engine mounts or metric chassis ones? What engine did the car have in it? I bet that finger hurts like hell Welcome to Blatchat Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1960 Posted December 12, 2010 Author Share Posted December 12, 2010 Yes, it a new kit Roadsport 175. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted December 12, 2010 Share Posted December 12, 2010 Then I suggest you contact the factory, something is not aligned correct or you been supplied incorrectly. Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Could removing the starter and refitting after the engine is in and flat help? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBL Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 When installing my Duratec, I removed the starter, installed the engine, and then re-affixed the starter. edit -- I also removed and re-installed the oil filter and its mount for the same reason. Sean Edited by - BBL on 13 Dec 2010 03:58:34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 As Jason said more info needed You wont get it in with ancillaries on Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted December 13, 2010 Share Posted December 13, 2010 Where abouts are you ? Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1960 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Share Posted December 13, 2010 Thanks guy. I reason with Jason & Mad Hatter. I was going to remove the starter but then I thought maybe not as there wouldn't be any space to install it later. I spoke to my contact at caterham. he was suprise and need more photos. Any way, I read somewhere that you need to tilt the engine to the right and don't worry it it appear to be falling off. Will try that and let you guy know the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Ade - YHBM Mad Hatter The Dura Mentalist 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Caution - May Contain Nuts ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasmaninaseven Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I don't remember having any problem with the starter on my CC Duratec build. The alternator, bottom R here had to come off however, released by a twist with a scocket of the belt tensioner, top R. Sorry, don't know if that is obvious in the build manual, as didn't have one. Neil Build pictures here Guantanamo Bay Orange SUPERLIGHT R400...... Edited by - Neil.Williams on 14 Dec 2010 19:48:55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1960 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Neil - it was in the manual, didn't read that part until later. However, I still couldn't install the engine until I removed the alternator, starter, screen washer bottle and both engine mounts??. Its in now, later discover that the earth cable is too short and missing legs for the radiator, CC close then for the season. So the engine is still hanging from the hoist??. Have you got wiring note for duratec 2.0 L there is no manual for duratec. hyelp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 R400 manual here most should relate to your install. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy1960 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 No it doesn't - it's a variant between sigma 150 and duratec R400. All my cooling system is based on sigma 150. Any way its a long story. I should have just got my self a K-series engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rswestling Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Having finished a 150 recently, some advice I learned from this forum that really helped me; step away from the vehicle, take a deep breath, call Caterham. They provided the kit, if anything does not make sense, or parts don't seem to fit, then they made a mistake. I had to get replacement or missing parts every week of my 12 week build. Many parts did not fit, or the instructions were for a different car, or some other craziness. Take it slow and stick to it. Look for build pics from others who have built 175s. It will come together, and you will be out on a blat this spring. -robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Ade2, If it's any help, here are some pics of my R400D/S3 build. I imagine the engine and engine bay dimensions are pretty much the same as yours. My Assembly Guide had a combination of Sigma stuff and R400 stuff. I guess yours has a 175 section in place of the R400 one? To get the engine in, I had to remove the alternator. Also, I'd put the washer bottle too central on the footwell front panel (the Assembly Guide was misleading) so had to reposition it nearer the sideskin. Apart from that, I had very few probs other than shortages and one ot two wrong parts. If you haven't already done so, talk to Sean Cummerson at the factory. He's a star, and will move mountains to help you. Oh, and do consider Robert W's excellent advice too! JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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