Ozzy Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Can things be changed? This has happened to me now, 3 times in the past three months, and I am starting to get pretty pi**ed off with it! I have looked in the for sale section, seen something I've been looking for, and been lucky enough to be the first to note their interest (unfortunately, unlike some people, my access is fairly sporadic, as I'm working away a lot), only then to find out, after sending a mail to the seller, that the item has already been sold, as someone sent a private mail, without registering their interest on the original post Nigel. C7 FST....Powered by DVA A Wolf in Clams Clothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Do what I do - send the mail first, then register interest. Then go round with the lads . . . Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 I think you're missing the point Bri. By the time I might have seen it, the item may have been posted a few hours earlier. Fair enough you might think, right place, right time etc. However, if no one has posted interest, you assume that no one else who might be looking for it, has seen it yet, so you're in luck! Then find out, it's not to be. I find that somewhat annoying, to say the least! C7 FST....Powered by DVA A Wolf in Clams Clothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingars Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Nigel, You are assuming that all sales are made to club members; that may not be the case. BlatMail or email may be the only way that a non-member viewing an ad can get in touch with the seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Procter Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Do you have a better system in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsky Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Why cant the sellers just stick a SOLD post up as soon as poss after selling whatever it is Trotsky N7 HPC Clams and Brooklands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyseven Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 on the westie site you can only contact sellers if you are a member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 This is blatchat. Frustrating as it might be to a potential buyer that is life. There is no golden model, each system has it's flaws. No need for change, just for tolerance and understanding ... and on occassion a little more timeliness notifying something is sold. ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frying Pan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Put yourself in the seller's shoes: You get an email offer to buy whatever it is you are selling. Do you really reply and demand they post on Blatchat first before you'll slel to them Of course not... I agree it would be good manners for people to lock threads when items have been sold See some pictures of the build here. 18,000 miles completed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 TBH, I don't understand why people BM a seller directly instead of just registering their interest on the bespoke thread ! Too easy ... too transparent ??? Do they have something to hide ??? ... I sold a lot of thing s in the past ... and my personal experience with people mailing me direct was (mostly) not good at all 😔 .. so, as a result, I now always ask in my thread to first register your interest online and then contact me to arrange payment & delivery / collection. Works perfect for me ... and is very transparent for both seller and buyer Why couldn't this become the ‘SOP’ for selling / buying stuff ? ... And yes ... please update your add and mention when it's sold !!! Btw, frist dibs Nigel ... 😬 😬 😬 This is the for sale section after all __________________ Flanders AR - Flanders.AR@gmail.com “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” Antoine de Saint Exupery Edited by - Slider@7 on 23 Jul 2010 08:07:08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyCoulson Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Whenever I have sold stuff here I always respond to whoever have registered their interest here first before replying to emails from those who haven't. Seems to be the fairest way of doing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I always reply be the time they were recieved either by posting or BM that way no one is disadvantaged. Too young to be old ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Two different things that pee me off. Does "I could be interested" class as first refusal because they posted first. Someone once said this and I 10 minutes later said "I'll deffo have it".......I was repremanded for it as a first rate queue jumper The other thing (unless it's a car) that winds me up is for example "FOR SALE Carbon seats"...you go to the advert and there is an Ebay link Finally I'd like to say that when an item has been spoken for anyone who claims "5th dibs" is a twat Kenny HPC 218 Evo Edited by - kenny. on 23 Jul 2010 08:17:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Does "I could be interested" class as first refusal because they posted first. IMHO : no ... But where do you draw the line ? I always ask 'first dibs' ... (of course, only when I 'm seriously interested in the item that's being offered for sale) ... since I sometimes want a bit more info about the condition or exact specs or payment/delivery options etc etc etc ... before committing 100% to buy ... What really p*sses me of is that after having registered fist dibs on BC and being in contact with the seller regarding these 'side details' (so being in the stadium of finalizing the deal) ... you suddenly get a mail from the seller saying that the item has been sold to another person 😔 Luckily this is rather the exception rather then the rule ... but it happened to me on several occasions ☹️ __________________ Flanders AR - Flanders.AR@gmail.com “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” Antoine de Saint Exupery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Does "I could be interested" class as first refusal because they posted first. Someone once said this and I 10 minutes later said "I'll deffo have it".......I was repremanded for it as a first rate queue jumper That's happened to me . . . Where else in the World does saying you might be interested in something qualify as an offer to purchase? People abuse the dibs system and make dibs for some pathetic reasons like, someone they met on a bus 'might be interested' and they will see them in a couple of weeks to let them know. Gets on my nerves . . . as often as not they will try to negotiate on price after dibbing when a price is given (which is off IMO) or they'll never come back to you. Plus their dibs put off genuine potential buyers who are worried about being branded queue jumpers. Dibs If it's sold though, it makes sense to make it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The other one that gets me, me being the seller this time, is you post "Brand new Toyo 888 185/60/13 still with stickers on it"............someone just has to post back "SEND ME PICS" So you have to go rooting for the camera, grab a flash card out of the wii console, turn the house upside down looking for the camera charger then p1ss about doing a David Bailey with the said TOYO........FFS IT'S A TYRE Kenny HPC 218 Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 This has happened to me and I have also been gazumped as well. I have always felt and discussed with Barry at length, much to his frustration 😬, that: 1) All correspondence should be on the thread until such point as the sale is agreed. 2) No dibs, its a pain is the ass. Either its sold or its not 3) Blatchat members should be given first opportunity to buy an item if the seller is going to post in the for sale section. If say after a week there is no joy, then post on ebay and link back. 4) Links to a photo of the item always helps to confirm the items condition. Yes I know if it's a tyre then its a tyre but one idea of mint is different to another idea. A photo leave no confusion about the condition of an item. I will now site back and be prepared to get flamed My site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Much as it pains me I have to agree in general with Peters thoughts above 😬. I've been caught out by a difference of interprestation on what been posted on 'For Sale' threads and think making all dealings on line until the point of discussing payment method should be through the thread. If you are prepared to take offers via BM then you should state that and that you will detail at what time you recieved the offer to purchase and by whom. Saves all the nonsense of oh sorry sold it an hour ago to Fred Bloggs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Manager Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I have always felt and discussed with Barry at length, much to his frustration 😬 , that: 😬 I can't put anything in the software that can effect any of this, it's behavioural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 You could consider banning people for life for saying "first dibs subject too" though The item is then on hold until the ditherer decides if he can get it cheaper elsewhere Kenny HPC 218 Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul jacobs Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Oh dear, oh dear, why does something so simple as buying or selling cause so much angst? I'm sure this will upset a few people, and that is not my intention, but although we are nice and cosy here on BC, we do live in the real world and as a seller, I'm only interested in selling the goods and getting the money. When you have something to sell, the first one with the money gets it, all previous inquiries and expressions of interest, do not constitute a purchase until money has changed hands, so the 1st person to do that ends up with the goods and if someone really wants something, then they should make a real effort to get it. It would be good etiquette if the seller could post that the item is sold ASAP of course. As a buyer, if I really want somehting, I will make every effort to close the deal as soon as possible, that means personal email, phoning, or visiting the seller if possible. If someone else gets there first, then, tough luck. That's the way it works. It would be nice to also post a brief acknowledgment on the thread, but people being what they are, it won't always happen, and the seller may not log onto BC for days so won't always see any postings. I fail to see the problem, or is it just pique when a buyer loses an item? Get over it, because it will happen all through life, see ...... real world! Paul J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ryan Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I agree with Kenny. To me 'first dibs' means I will have it at the price stated, not that I want to p*ss the seller around, and stop anyone else buying it, until I decide it's not for me, and I post withdrawing the dibs. There have been a few cases lately where people have withdrawn first dibs, and to me that is not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_K Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Completely agree with the above. As annoying as it is when you miss out on something you really want, the section is purely an opportunity for members to pass one item on to someone else. The buyers are not 'customers' expecting a service, the rights remain 100% with the seller. Etiquete is totally different and this should be expected but difficult to enforce. This is the responsibilty of everyone and is behavioural as Barry says. Make it too difficult to sell anything and people won't advertise things, which would be a shame given the very healthy flow of items we have passing through this board. The alternative is that we all pay a slice to ebay. Just my 2p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Agree and the point you make Etiquett is the important thing here. We ARE a comfy friendly club and therefore should show some common sence and curtesy. What I am suggesting fits in to what is being said, curtious and common sense. Until you have been messed about, either as a seller or buyer, its hard to get excited about ----- My site----- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 And another thing When a tasty goodie comes on if you are not interested in buying it FFS don't post "That's too cheap" for the sake of it..........There's been a few second thoughts price hikes due to this noseyness and has more than once resulted in my opening offer being replied to with "stick your offer up your 🙆🏻" Kenny HPC 218 Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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