RoyH Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 During my recent Llandow experience a comment was made wrt my brakes having little feel and being very hard. What optional pads should I consider to replace what, I believe, are CC standard pads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted April 2, 2010 Area Representative Share Posted April 2, 2010 Roy I believe the general concensus is that Pagids are the best but cost . Nick Lava Orange Caterham Blackbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 As I said at the time Roy, they lack bite and feel. I use performance friction 01 compound - cheaper and better bite and feel than padgids in my experience here is my Duratec R .... C7 TOP Taffia AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyH Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Thanx Dave, Forgot your recommendation. Will give em a try. What else did you say needs replacing or checking on the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezky Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 What else did you say needs replacing the driver *wavey* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyH Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 🙆🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing Snake Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Hey Roy i cant remember who cried off with a slight cold can you ? Mad Hatter Racing - Feel The Duralight R Torque 😬 Carl @ Penn 7's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I would check the prop bolts and /or diff slack fix the gearbox 2nd gear problem check the cam timing ballance the throttle bodies and calibrate the throttle pot to improve small throttle opening behaviour Find a means of bottling and selling your great infectious enthusiasum 😶🌫️ here is my Duratec R .... C7 TOP Taffia AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTYoung Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 (Apologies because I'm using my Father's profile, so this is a bit cheeky) On the brake pads we (SPY Motorsport) run several R300s and (previously) R400s in the official Caterham Superlight championships and have naturally tried many different manufacturer's pads over multiple drivers & cars to try to find those with the best pedal feel/consistency. We have found that: Despite the huge expense Pagids are very poor after only a couple of track sessions. They become very uncommunicative, and are quite unstable over a race distance - you just can't rely on them, which leads to mistakes and loss of confidence. Ferodo suffer from very poor communication, particularly around lockup. Mintex, Performance Friction are unexceptional. Hawk are very good, with excellent pedal feedback, good pad life, but very aggressive to the disk. They also do not make the backing plate shape for the latest/current AP front calipers, and supply from the states through the limited number of stockist in the UK is patchy. SO we now use and stock a brand called FRIXA, who are part of Hankook tires. They are a large OEM brake supplier with a specialised motorsport department who normally (and very successfully) create pads for Le Mans, F3, Touring car teams exclusively. We helped develop three compounds (soft/medium/hard) tailored specifically to the Caterham Superlights, I expect the only brake pad manufacturer who has actually done this! The pads have great pedal feedback, partcularly good recovery time (so they always feel consistent between stops), and are very stable across a range of temps. In fact I won in the R400s last year the first time I ran on them :) Sorry I didn't mean to make that sound like an advert but if you'd like more info get in touch with my brother peter@spy-motorsport.co.uk or me smyoung@ukonline.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTYoung Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Oh forgot to include my name! Simon Young p.s. If anyone's at Silverstone this weekend for Superleague and first round of the R300 championship drop by the SPY Motorsport awning and say hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 always keen to learn of further alternatives how are these on disk wear ? here is my Duratec R .... C7 TOP Taffia AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyH Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Dave 😬 Simon, now that's interesting. BM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTYoung Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Well I was going to include that above, but I thought I was boring people already :) Although it wasn't our foremost concern when testing for the racing, impressions are that disk wear is pretty good. They have a very low metallic content compared with most pads. The other thing I didn't mention is that compatibility following other pads seems good, we have successfully followed Pagid, Hawk, Ferodo with no problems so far. They do benefit from a careful running in period though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Interesting Simon, I race with Ferodo's DS2500 and find them fantastic, but is always willing to try something different. I agree about the Pagids, not my cup of tea at all My front 4 pots and the rear 2 pots (825H) are the early AP versions, who should I talk to about specing up a set of Frixa's? Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Edited by - Pendennis on 2 Apr 2010 19:03:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A10ROX Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Bulk buy anyone? Palmer Sport Driver of the day 27mar10! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTYoung Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 RoyH you have mail Pendennis we (SPY) stock the pads for uprated front and rear types in the three compounds and I would be happy to discuss what would be best if you tell me a bit about your car in terms of power, tires, your like etc etc. I'm not sure I'm familiar with the 825H calipers by that name. Do they use this pad type? http://www.sector111.com/images/products/performance/brake_bits/pagid%20pads/pagid-4-2-blue-lg.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTYoung Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Should say your likes (with reference to how you like the brakes to feel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendennis Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Simon, yep they look like the fronts and the rears pads are Ferodo DS2500 version 825H. I am not totally sure but, the fronts are possibly still current AP Caterham 4 pot and the rears are the early AP 2 pot that bolt directly on top of the ear without needing the modern conversion mounting bracket which is currently used by Caterham. Car is race only, Superlight R S3, but with 2L Duratec circa 260bhp shod this year on ACB10's, though may go back to A11 slicks. I like it hard Want to rent an 18th century Farmhouse in Rural Somerset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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