Myles Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I noticed that Halfords have a 6-litre oil-extractor thing on the shelves. Bit pricey at £64. Consists of a plastic sphere, a pump-handle thing and some hoses. Piccies on the box suggest that you can extract oil via the dipstick if you wish. I'd be interested in something similar (it's nice and compact and doesn't need a compressor) particularly for the dry-sumped Westie - I've not done an oil change on it yet, but my understanding is that there's a chunk of unbolting bits and pieces that might be a right faff (but is probably a good excuse to whip the clutch-pack out and check for wear etc. 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonpa Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Do a search for a Pela extractor. They are sold MUCH cheaper from a chandlery - I'm sure I paid less than half that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonpa Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Here you go: Pela £29.99 with free delivery with the MSMXMAS code - if you spend over £50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markiebabes Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Ditto Simon Myles I use the pela 6000 ( got mine off Fleabay brand new ) as my Smart doesn't have a sump plug ❗ so oil has to be sucked through the dipstick 😳 great bit of kit even works on the diff 😬 Mark 7 Webshots here R400 😬 pure fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadsport06 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I have the Pela 6000. Works well, I use it for my wife's VW TDi PD engined car. The oil filter is at the top of the block so I extract the oil through the dip stick and change the filter in between main services. I think I paid £30 2 yrs ago. BRG and Yellow nose now with added brooklands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Not a fan of extracting oil through the dipstick. Can't beat getting oil hot and letting gravity wash all the crap out of the sump plug hole. Maybe the set up of your dry sumped car means that you don't have this facility anywhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonpa Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Agree with doing it hot - with extractor or not. The CC dry-sump does mean that there is no plug in the sump (I don't think). Also, if no after-market solution has been put in place, the only way to drain the dry-sump in the bellhousing is to remove a plate at the bottom. This means the 4 tiny bolts strip the magnesium treads in the b/h after about 4 changes - what a crap design! I've now re-tapped mine and have a plate with a drain plug in it - no more leaks now Either way, I see no issue with extraction - it's becoming common on many new cars and will likely be standard within a short while, probably due to health and safety issues - not a good idea to have hot oils splashing about. If using an extractor in the CC b/h, don't forget to spin the external oil pump by hand to empty what's left in the engine sump into the b/h... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted December 13, 2009 Area Representative Share Posted December 13, 2009 It may be OK for a quick oil swap although I tend to agree with Ian, doing a "proper" oil change does the job of removing any swarf that may be lingering in the oil pan and checks that your blackbird gearset is not disintegrating . Using a pump to get out the vast majority of the dry sump contents might be a good idea although I just remove the bottom hose and release it into a oil bowl and leave it draining. If you have an oil cooler then this can be emptied as well. Nick Lava Orange Caterham Blackbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markiebabes Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Simon doesn't your car have a sump plug then 🤔 Is it because you have a magnesium one maybe ? My R400 (CC dry sump)has one on the bottom of the sump pan Mark 7 Webshots here R400 😬 pure fun ( more so with Aero fitted ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Ta. Thought the price was a bit high for a glorified garden-sprayer in reverse! 😬 As Nick suggests, if nothing else it'd allow the majority of the oil to be removed before dissembly - 10 litres takes an awful lot of mopping up from the tarmac! 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire Voyant Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Best way to get the oil out of your Apollo is by suction 0 see various threads about how difficult it is to get the plug out of the bottom (without ruining the tank). Well worth £30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Just googled Pela. I'm almost 100% sure that's the product they had on the shelf. The shelf-sticker (at £65) did refer to a Laser-branded tool (and the box did not). I think I'll go check with them (might as well check their online store first). 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 here Hmmph. It's the same thing, isn't it. Right - I'll go somewhere else then. 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonpa Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Yep - exactly the same kit as the Pela on my shelf. I'm tempted to write a review saying it's great, but can be had for half the price from any Marine sales shop/website... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted December 13, 2009 Area Representative Share Posted December 13, 2009 10 litres *eek* My Blackbird takes about 4.5 litres. I do remember the Megabird DS tank being rather large though, but 10 litres Nick Lava Orange Caterham Blackbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 I don't know how much it is TBH - I do know that it's quite a lot. I'll ask the builder... 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 The answer is 8 litres - so almost a litre more than a completely-dry Apollo'd wet-sump k-series... The oil-cooler is ridiculously-efficient by the way... 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Ecosse™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I've got the Draper version very uselful for a lot of thing those suction things. Jack Emily, The Very Yellow 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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