Nifty Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have been asked if I'd post this by someone who's membership is in the post. I am looking for the Rover 1.4 MPI Engine Loom for a 1993 to 94 K-Series setup, which I guess is EU2 in Carspeak. It will need to fit to the Standard ECU MKC101460 as supplied by Caterham. It should obviously incorporate all of the Temperature, MAP, Crank Position & multipoint injection harness plug. I think the big problem will be mating those two Multiplugs from a 2008 Caterham to the 1994 Loom If anyone can help then please contact me and I will get in touch with the person concerned, if he has yet registered to post in his own name. Cheers, Nifty. ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Nifty, Firstly I don't think a 1994 car is EU2. Secondly, which two big multiplugs is he talking about? The older looms were only interconnecting with one plug (usually grey) Give me a shout if I can help... /regin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 My 1995 car was EU2 The two multiplugs are on the 2008 chassis loom. He has a new chassis (with loom) but an old engine by the sounds of things. ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Part of EU2 is a catalytic converter - which amateur build cars don't need in the UK, but never mind. The most recent wiring diagram I have is 2007 - and for a Sigma engined car. This only has one connector. You can let him have my email address (r at rj . dk) , then I'll see if I can be of any use... Mind you that I'm an electronics geek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 Regin, I thought home built cars did now need a catalyst Anyway, he's not English ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Edited by - Nifty on 17 Feb 2009 01:33:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Nifty Am I right: the other guy has a new chassis/build but wants to put a circa 1994 K series engine in? If this is so then it should be possible to run the engine on a standard EU2 engine loom assuming he uses a later coil (normally bolted to the side of the engine block) & the later 1.4/1.6 flywheel. If he must run with the old pattern ("dry liner") engine & the old flywheel then it would be easier to either re-work the Caterham engine loom himself or get someone to do it for him, or indeed get a bespoke loom made. And thirdly it may be possible that his 1.4 is not of Caterham vintage & although 1994 it may already be a "damp liner"engine with the later flywheel & coil so should marry up OK to a Caterham EU2 loom. And finally as someone who has been through the pain of a 1.4 upgrade to 1.6 in 2000, my 1994 car was supplied with a catalyst. Edited to clarify: If the "standard ECU MKC101460" limits to the old injection/flywheel/coil then option 2 would be his best bet. Edited by - Mick Day on 17 Feb 2009 13:57:29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Nifty, Now they do, but in 1995 they didn't in the UK. Here in Denmark it has been a must since 1990 for any car. If I want to register a new car here - regardless of the engine age - it'll have to comply with the current regs which means it must be EU4 - and tested and approved. I think under the recently introduced IVA you'll need something similar as the intention is to uniform the regulations to make trading across the borders easier. The new regs will in fact mean that a new Caterham can be registered here again, which it couldn't from Oct 2003. /regin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Gentlemen, Thank you for your technical advice. However, I'm haven't got time to delve into all the issues for this chap but I do know he is reading these threads. As for legislation, he's an Irish native living Vietnam and I don't know where he intends to run the car so have no idea on what legislation he is building it to. All I did was offer to put a post up for him here, pending his membership coming through (after he approached me about one of the exhausts I had for sale). Does anyone have a spare / idle loom ? ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Marcus, has sent me an E-mail, the contents of which is below, to help explain what he is after. Hi Nifty, Much obliged for the post opportunity and having to engage with the forum on side issues!!!! I am just jotting down a few little answers regarding some of the questions posed: Hopefully someone will come back with an offer of a Caterham Loom from a pre-94 Series-3 Engine. Just for your info, I have converted an original 1990 SPI K-Series to an MPI K-Series, using the Induction system from a standard 94 Rover. My original Loom that came with My engine could be modified to accept the extra wiring for the Injector Loom. The Engine I bought two years ago started out life in Longbridge, Rover’s factory and went directly to a Technical College somewhere in Wales wher it was mounted in a Dolly with castors and fuel tank, exhaust system and ECU / MEMS fusebox wired up and run for intermittent periods. Even though its almost 19yrs. old it hasn’t any milage on it, even had the plastic caps on the gearbox diff. The oil that came out after I had test run it myself after delivery was like honey. So being Irish I bought the Engine first and then saved up for the Seven. I have all of the necessary bits (secondhand) to convert it to a SS also in the future if I get bored with the basic performance of the 110HP. Now all that’s left at the moment is to wire this Engine up to the Caterham Chassis Loom. Blatchat Quotes: Am I right: the other guy has a new chassis/build but wants to put a circa 1994 K series engine in? If this is so then it should be possible to run the engine on a standard EU2 engine loom assuming he uses a later coil (normally bolted to the side of the engine block) & the later 1.4/1.6 flywheel. I would have the earlier Coil / Flywheel (Square Type) If he must run with the old pattern ("dry liner") engine & the old flywheel then it would be easier to either re-work the Caterham engine loom himself or get someone to do it for him, or indeed get a bespoke loom made. I would be delighted to get a Caterham Loom and do the necessary.!!! And thirdly it may be possible that his 1.4 is not of Caterham vintage & although 1994 it may already be a "damp liner"engine with the later flywheel & coil so should marry up OK to a Caterham EU2 loom. Mine is an Original Lean Burn Pre-Power Port type head, full wet liner. And finally as someone who has been through the pain of a 1.4 upgrade to 1.6 in 2000, my 1994 car was supplied with a catalyst. I wont need a Catalyst in Ireland unless I want to avail of lower VRT and can produce some factual “Emmissions Data” for this model engine, not likely I would imagine. Edited to clarify: If the "standard ECU MKC101460" limits to the old injection/flywheel/coil then option 2 would be his best bet. “Unquote” I guess Option Two would be the option for me to follow, pending a CC Loom. Many Thanks Nifty and please don’t get roped into any of this to and fro business as I much appreciate the time & trouble you have taken already, so hopefully someone will come up with the Loom and we can take it from there.!!! Best Regards, Marcus. Rotating Equipment Specialist, Central Production Complex, Rang Dong Field, Vietnam ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Edited by - Nifty on 18 Feb 2009 19:08:22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Marcus Just think for £42 you could be posting this on blatchat yourself. Sam is the membership sec give her a call +44 70000 572582. good luck David Management Team Member Regalia Posting on Blatchat since 2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 David, Marcus's membership is in the post as per my original posting ======================================== Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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