Simon.Rogers1 Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Everyone. Mel spoke to me over the weekend. There are new 215 Super Soft tyres in stock. They also expect 235's later in the year. I will allocate strictly on a first come first served basis. I have no idea how many there are in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S. Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Simon, Can you just clarify, are these a new compound that's softer than the old K21 soft? Class 4 Zetec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Yes. K11 compound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 as discussed friday - 2 in super soft usually place for cheque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted February 16, 2009 Support Team Share Posted February 16, 2009 I've only recently bought a complete set of the soft compound I just can't keep up in the class 5 arms race ☹️ Yellow SL #32 - member of Drowned Rat Racing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 Yes Ususal place for the cheque. That way I can make sure some orders may either be lost or incorrectly specified. I'm sure you ordered K60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S. Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Oh dear, I too thought I'd finished spending, go on then I'd better have 4. Simon YHM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamV Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Simon - Thanks for the advice. I'll have to say 'no thanks' for now. My financial advisor stepped in - she said I should wait until my other tyres are worn out Sorry to mess you about Graham Edited by - GrahamV on 17 Feb 2009 10:10:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Just a thought as so many people have already invested in the soft compound does any think it maybe an idea to ban the supersoft for this year? otherwise it seems like the costs are escalting again which is exactly what we were trying to avoid by switching to the Kumho's? Cheers Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 maybe it is time to start the bring back acb10 thread 😬 rob PS Rob can you send me my lanc cable back at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishmaninwales Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I would tend to agree with Rob Grigsby, having just purchased soft compound tyres. ☹️ Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S. Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I would be happy with banning all supersoft tyres for this season only. "Credit Crunch" blah blah blah.....I have been wondering what the numbers at events will be like as it is this year so anything we can do to help keep costs reasonable can only be good in my view Edited by - Martin S. on 17 Feb 2009 09:48:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Ummmm Its a bit late now given the number of cheques received and some already banked. Things change. We all want to go faster. "I know next year lets ban all upgrades due to the credit crunch". You see where this is going. Management Team Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I have carefully considered the request to ban the use of the super soft compound Kumho tyres however, I am unable to approve this change to our regulations for the following reasons: all changes to our regulations are considered and approved annually at the Technical Forum; our championship regulations have already been submitted to the MSA and allow the use of all list 1b radial tyres including the Kumho V70a in all compounds. The use of all list 1b radial tyres is in line with other championship regulations; it is not practical to change our regulations every time a tyre supplier produces a new tyre which may give a performance advantage. I remember when Stunners became the list 1a tyre of choice requiring a change to 15" wheels plus new tyres, an additional cost of approximately £560. a number of competitors have already purchased the super soft compound tyres in the knowledge they comply with our championship regulations. I agree that we must look to keep costs to a minimum especially in the current financial climate however, there will always be developments that improve performance that are permitted in our regulations as this is the nature of motorsport. I suggest we review this type of request at the next Tech Forum. Mark D Comp Sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S. Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Thanks for the succinct clarification Mark......cheque back in the out tray Now to look for a second set of wheels in case these supesofts are too bl@@dy soft and overheat at the longer venues Class 4 Zetec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishmaninwales Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Thank you for giving this due consideration, and the difficulty for change at this stage is clear I doubt my driving is good enough to take advantage of the softer compound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Seems a bit of strange decision given that Simon only announced the availbility of the super softs 3 days ago so surely no one can actually have got them yet? sorting out a few returned cheques can't be that hard. I understand the logic behind it but it does seem a bit unhelpful, we had the 215-235 upgrade last year and now we're going from soft's so supersofts. Whilst I know they are optional, if you want to compete at the top of class 5 there really is very little choice so people are being forced into spending more money which surely was the whole point of banning ACB10's. If this was mid-season I guess it would be a bit different but the season hasn't started yet. Cheers Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Just realised the above post probably sounds a bit grumpy, it's not meant to be however it does seem like we (as in L7 Club) have missed an easy oppurtunity to reduce the costs of the sprinting at a time when everyone is very concerned about costs. Cheers Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSL Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Like a few others here, it is a bit of an arse having only recently purchased a set of normal big boy softie's 😳 I had heard nothing of this new supersoft compound until the start of this very thread, have they only been anounced in the last few weeks or something It won't really bother me as I am unlikely to get to more than one event this year, but can understand others competitors obvious frustrations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Let me clarrify. I was on my way to Ohlins on Friday morning on the M4 somewhere around Swansea at about 9 o'clock. Mel Williams rang me and from the top of a mountain near Merthyr Tydfil he informed me that Kumho had just received a shipment out of the blue of K11 compound V70 tyres in 215 x 13. He did not know how many there were. 235's are expected in at some this year. Since I was away all day Friday without my cheque book and Mel being a hobby supplier ie no credit card payments he was unable to order tyres that day. Until the cheque is in his hand he does not order. I spoke to Mark, Adrian and David over the weekend as we were at a management Team meeting. Another competitor had spoken to Mel directly on Friday morning and been told about the tyres (by chance). I posted on Sunday night about their availability. I paid Mel (he does live local to me) on Monday morning and received my tyres on Tuesday. I have passed on quite a few cheques already to Mel received by me today. I could have decided not to tell others! No one would have looked at the small numbers on the side of the tyre. But like many others in this championship I share everything and swap data and offer help where I can. It did not cross my mind to with hold the info. From now on please send all payment direct to Mel Williams 13 Tawelan Pontargothi Carmarthen SA32 7NQ That way I am out of the loop. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSL Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Clarified *thumbup* As for having a pair for yourself & not telling anybody, we know that's not your style at all Anyone peddling the older softies, can console themselves with the kudos they will gain if they manage to win without the new improved ultra stickies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thanks for the explanation Simon, I never meant to imply that it was something you had done wrong, just a general missed oppurtunity. As DSL says I guess we'll have to wait and see how they compare once the season starts. 😬 Cheers Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Thats cool chaps. Just thought I'd clear it up. How much are they going to be worth at Llandow and Curbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Williams Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 About £2.50 after a lap and 3/4 at Llandow 😳 Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Comp Sec Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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