Slider7 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 OK, I’m currently (slowly) gathering all the parts needed to build a 200 BHP K-series … Having done already a bit of research on what components to use … etc … Two very important things regarding this : it needs to be a K-series & it needs to be bombproof. Currently, my ideal spec would be : - MS2 VHPD head with 285H cams, piper springs & steel caps, VHPD valves, DTH TB’s (45mm) … - 1.8 K bottom end with standard crank, Omega forged piston, Farndon steel rods, Westwood liners, lightweight R500 flywheel … - Emerald K3 ECU … I guess this should be good for 200 BHP @ “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” Antoine de Saint Exupery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barong77 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Slider looks like a nice spec list, would have thought that an appolo would be good enough for normal track and road use, when my engine was built up this is how the spec ended up. VHPD headported and a big valve number done on it , 1444 cams, Goetze liners,set of omega pistons, TF160 bigend bearings, steel rods, verniers and an emerald, this lot runs with a wet sump and an appolo set up so far no problems, also with a standard crank. When it was run in and set up with Dave walker 247 hp and 167 lbft of torques 😬 tiz a bit quick i must say but might be a wee bit top end of the rev range for some 247hp at 8650 rpm what else is out there in the way of k series porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 You really do not need special rods for a 200 BHP, 8000rpm engine But I would add verniers to the list Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted February 9, 2009 Support Team Share Posted February 9, 2009 To get to 200bhp you'll probably need some porting to the head. I would give some consideration to a Scholar Evo block, either 1800 or, better still, 1900. This will ensure perfect liner standoff. My engine is: 1900 Scholar block with Pistal forged pistons VVC head (same valve sizes as MS2) converted to solid cams and fully ported by DVA BP285H cams with Piper verniers Jenvey DTHTBs (42mm I think) ports matched to the head Caterham 4-2-1 exhaust Emerald ECU All that lot produces 226bhp @7800rpm It will rev higher. I am running a standard crank and single tang rods. Yellow SL #32 - member of Drowned Rat Racing Edited by - Shaun_E on 9 Feb 2009 12:09:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Thx so far 247hp at 8650 rpm ... indeed ... you're a brave man 😬 Trophy 160 uprated big end bearings sounds like a good idea Verniers Btw, I know that steel rods aren't necessary ... but in order to make it bombproof, I might just do it ... and this will leave me a margin for when I would want to go > 200 bhp ...after a while 😳 A Scholar conversion is something I'm still considering Might as well go for 1900cc if I go this route. But ... I've read about some horror stories on here regarding 1.9K's ... so not sure. Ported head : maybe yes … Keep 'm coming “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” Antoine de Saint Exupery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnty Lyons Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I used to run an 1800 200 BHP K then I did a Scholar 1900 conversion and a head change and now it's a Bomp Proof 240 Bhp Your doing all the right things And I'd agree with the Rods [i used Arrow] so that you can progress upwards jj N.I. L7C AR 🙆🏻 Membership No.3927. 240BHP 1900cc K Series 40th Anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnty Lyons Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Ps as regards the DS what usage are you putting the car to and what tyres are you running DS's are an emotive issue....... Me personally I wouldnt be without mine jj N.I. L7C AR 🙆🏻 Membership No.3927. 240BHP 1900cc K Series 40th Anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 OK, I’m currently (slowly) gathering all the parts That's odd ....... so am I !! 😬 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 If you want it bomb proof, don't you want to add a DKE crank to the list? Only dead fish go with the flow....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Car will be used both for road (60%) & track (40%) ... and will most likely be on CR500's or similar (no ACB10's or slicks). Am considering a DS, mainly for the extra piece of mind ... but then again ... it will add to the cost substantially. A DKE crank ? Mmm ... must do some research regarding this. Are they expensive ... any other uprated alternatives available for a standard crank ? That's odd ....... so am I !! ... ... 😬 😬 😬 ... “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” Antoine de Saint Exupery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 You do not *need* a DKE crank, for the duty that you are expecting a stock crank is more than adequate. Oily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myothercarsa2cv Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Bombproof... On a more serious note, isn't bombproof K-series an oxymoron? Half the fun, isn't it? If you're doing this all yourself, Slider, how about a mini blog/photo diary to inspire us fellow kays? John _________________________ Bugsy: '82 2cv6 (Back on the road!!! 😬) Talloulah: '08 1.6K Classic (Grubby ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 Cheers for that Oily Afraid I'm not doing it myself (have 2 left hands ) - will have one of the experts do it for me instead 😬 “Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away” Antoine de Saint Exupery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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