Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I recall a thread a while back where Mark 355 was searching for an alternate supply and Roger Swift was investigating the other day. I also heard that Performance braking in Monmouth had an alternative of an ally bell with a cast iron disk to suit our offset. Has anyone found an alternative supply at more reasonable cost or tried the Performace braking option ? Dave here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snitcher Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Try Dave Kimberly. I understand he may have a solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Noit sure if these are the same Dave here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 do we know the offset on those Mav ? here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 not a clue Dave. May be worth calling W*******d though. The kit looks the same as the CC stuff. The calipers are *almost* identical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dave been tyring to call you but phone engaged permenantly. Details as I understand them: 254mm Diameter 18mm Thick 10mm offset disc face to bell outer face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 tell me about it Mav try my mobile next time instead of trying to get past my PA here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 It was your mobile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 ooohh only one missed call at 3.41pm maybe you had the wrong number 🤔 here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 anyway ... I'll check the AP offset tonite as I have the uprights etc off the car at the moment here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The one I measured (which was used ) is: 254 dia 17.7mm thick 29.9 Front face of disk to bolt up face on rear Given the above I guess that 10mm offset disc face to bell outer face compares to 12.2 on the Caterham ? Anyone for 2.2mm spacers between caliper and upright ? Edited by - ECR on 4 Feb 2009 16:26:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 There is already a spacer used isnt there Roger ? I recall it to be about 5mm ? or am I thinking of latest upgraded hub to upright ? here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I think that may be the new upright. I certainly don't have it on mine ... Looks like a solution ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 There's certainly a spacer used on the disk for the rear setup (with the later calipers ?) see https://www.caterhamparts.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4265 And http://www.blatchat.com/T.asp?id=162498 Edited by - ECR on 4 Feb 2009 16:38:43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Considering changing mine so would really like to know the feasibilty of this. Just had a look on mine - 2002 - and I've certainly not got any spacers between the caliper and upright so can't see any issues about using a 2mm? spacer if necessary to make these fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The number you sent in your last e-mail was wrong! Found the right number and that missed call was probably me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hmmmmmm, the only issue I can see would be the discs fouling on the TRE if the offset is 2mm different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 No spacer for the Disc on the new or old front hubs as far as I can remember... the sizes from westfield Tech guy were approximate, as he did not have any drawings to reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 fouling the track rod end - thats why we would have to space the disk out 2.2mm and not the caliper 🤔 I'm going past West-field next week, I'll call in and buy a pair to trial here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 that incorrect number was sent my my poorer half Mav ? here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I've looked at the caliper/disk set up this morning. The disk actualy faces inwards, that is, the bolt up face is to the outside of the car. Assuming the 10mm Westfield dimension to be accurate (caution, see Mav's earlier post) that means there will be 2.2mm MORE gap between the TRE and the disk. If you are happy to have the disk 2.2mm out of centre relative to the caliper then the job's a good un. A 2.2mm spacer between the disk and hub would bring things back on centre ? Alternatively I would look at milling 2.2mm off the caliper bolt up lugs, there's PLENTY of meat there by the look of it. If I ever wanted to return to standard I could then use 2 0ff 2.2mm spacers between the caliper and the upright. I can't think of any other clearance issues (wheel rims ? ....). It looks worth trying for £37.00 each Edited by - ECR on 5 Feb 2009 12:04:13 Edited by - ECR on 5 Feb 2009 12:09:01 Edited by - ECR on 5 Feb 2009 12:10:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If there's any entrepreneurs out there - why not take the pattern over to Brake Engineering at Wrexham and get a price for a thousand or so . Flog 'em at £40 each, make a load of money for yourself (which you can then spend at Demon Tweeks since they're only half a mile away), and make a lot of Caterham owners happy Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 so make margin of £20 ........ can you lend me £20,000 and find me 500 caterham big brake owners with worn out discs in the next 12 months ? and there in lay the problem here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dave, any progress on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 no I didnt have time to call into Westfield last week. I wont be doing anything on this for at least a month. here is C7 TOP Taffia joint AO with Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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