Miltec Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I've com across a problem with my Toad Powerkey immobiliser? Have had the engine out, now all back in but the immobiliser won't disengage? have tested everything i can think of but still won't disengage? have disconnected the battery for an hour and reconnected everything but still the same? VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Edited by - miltec on 23 Jan 2009 15:08:13 Edited by - miltec on 26 Jan 2009 11:24:54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnty Lyons Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 If the Toad is in the car for any length of time, and the ign is not switched on it will auto rearm The only way to get it to then disarm is to take the Toad well away from the inductive loop beside the Ign Barrel so remove key from ign [presuming toad is on keyring] walk outside garage for a couple of minutes. Return and try disarming then. 😶🌫️ jj N.I. L7C AR 🙆🏻 Membership No.3927. 240BHP 1900cc K Series 40th Anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 Have tried taking the keys away overnight, still same result? VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Could it be that the small battery within the key dongle needs replacing??????? I presume its a tiny Lithium battery?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Escargot Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Had a similar problem - found that if I waggled the key-ring toad around the coil (wound around the ing. barrel) it disengaged. Now that is part of my normal pre start routine. 7 ownership is never dull! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 the fob does not have a battery Rob. It's inductive loop / RFID / ~Transponder stuff I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yes Mav, opened it up and just a small glass tube? Does anyone have a wireing diagram for a VX1600 they could send me please? VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Honnor Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Occasionally mine (96 1600 S/S) won't start. Sometimes when its hot, sometimes when its cold; so not a heat issue. As suggested above, my first drill is wiggling the transponder which sometimes works. Failing this, my second drill is removing the keys for a minute which often sorts it. If all these fail, my 3rd drill is to keep the keys out, put the car in top gear and push it forwards a couple of inches (turning the engine over slightly). Using these drills it always starts at one stage or another. No idea what the cause is but my drills don't fail me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 Have tried everything i can think of but the immobiliser won't disengage so the car won't start. going to remove the immobiliser tomorrow so all sould be well? VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Have removed the immobiliser but the car still won't come to life? not even dashboard lights? every thing seems fine with the wiring? is there an inercia switch on the VX1600 if so where is it? anyhelp would be greatfullly accepted VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 On later k-series cars it is on the bulkhead in the engine bay, in front of the passenger. Maybe yours is inside the passenger compartment - on the passenger side somewhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazerBrain Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 As far as I know, the inertia switch wouldn't affect the dashboard lights. I think it would only switch the fuel pump off. It's worth checking a circuit diagram to be sure. If nothing is working at all, I'd suggest checking the battery voltage, all the earths (especially if you've removed the engine) and ensure all the positive wires that should be wired to the battery positive are connected. Did the dashboard lights work before you removed the immobiliser? cheers, Darren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Befor the engine was taken out everything was fine (appart from sheared bolts) all wires back where they should be and nothing (but the immobiliser light) we then thought it must be the immobiliser, so have removed that and rewired as per with out. But still nothing??? VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationary M25 Traveller Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Silly question - but is the battery connected the right way round ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 26, 2009 Author Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yeah one of my first thoughts but have checked many times now VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadburys Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Might seem like a really daft idea but last week whilst ferreting under the dash, I pulled one of the tags of the back of the ignition switch... Have you checked under the plastic ignition switch cover that all the connections are on properly? Otherwise I'd start with a nothing more technical than a 12volt bulb bodged on the end of a couple of wires... Attach one wire to the chassis and use the other wire to check for the presence of electrons in the correct place. Be careful though - a number of feeds (including the ignition switch) aren't fused so a short circuit when testing could be 'exciting' and replacing smouldering wiring looms is expensive and time consuming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Again an obvious one but is there any chance the big brown live which goes to the ignition switch is not connected to the right place? I think it shares the same terminal as the battery + lead on the starter motor? Please be aware I may be talking out my 🙆🏻 😳 Hope the crane worked ok Jason It clunks, it rattles, the wife hates it, but I love my BEC. Edited by - Jason Fletcher on 26 Jan 2009 23:09:03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltec Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 thanks Jason the Crane worked great, got a sparky coming out to sort it on thursday. i have admit defeat.... 😔 VX 1600 Live Axle T440LKK rFactor: caterham.miltec.biz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 you know you will kick yourself when he finds something so so simple and stings you 80 quid for the pleasure 😳 Jason It clunks, it rattles, the wife hates it, but I love my BEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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