Graham Perry Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Interesting the way that the supports are attached to the Diff via the backplate bolts. Any reason why you didn't design the left hand one to attach to the large lug on the diff about 50mm above the current mounting position ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Tony thats because of the A frame and de dion rubber bushes and tyre sidewalls moving under cornering load. the diff is fixed on the chassis and the driveshafts are sprung so they have nothing to do with the tyres rubbing. The diff moves as a result of shock loads from transmission and kerb hopping etc and torque wind and twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Daves answer is the right answer @Graham Perry We use these points and CC use them also. So it is the correct solution Regards Joachim www.mog-racing.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Joachim, Sorry to hijack the thread! I see you have a eibach ERS springs - I have these on my car and the rear feels very strange and a bit unsettled. The rear grip does not feel good, which as you know, is not usually a problem with the Vx cars! Do you have experience of asetting up the ERS springs. I think my main spring is too firm, causing the tender spring to go coilbound too easily. Thanks Alex ----- VDU 7X Pics More VDU 7X Pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Hello Alex, can you say me what is a ERS spring? Which shocks you use and how stiff are your springs? Regards Joachim www.mog-racing.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 Bob, thank you Interesting. That's at last answered my post/question. For some reason, (I don't know why? ) I thought the diff bracing was to stop the torque reaction from the diff, driving the driveshafts, from lifting the nose of the diff. and not the torque reaction of the propshaft twisting the diff. Shurely then, it would be better to mount one brace one at the top of the diff, and the other one at the bottom? I guess no club discount then? But someone had to be cheeky and ask eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6speedmanual Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Mick, you were right in what you thought. The drive torque reaction tends to lift the nose of the diff. Joachim, for the after-fit market, your bolt on solution is a good idea without brazing. In theory a straight link in the direction of the force is more efficient, but I agree yours will also distribute reaction loads to the chassis. cheers Peter 6SpeedManual *tongue*There's no such thing as too much BHP per Ton 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 Thanks Peter That's given me some food for thought. I will be spending some time sitting, and looking at my chassis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Would you not feel a lot more vibration from the transmission through the chassis with the direct link between chassis and diff with not rubber bushes between ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Oh my goodness, so difficult theories in a foreign language. But it trains my English – maybe. My theory is triangles, triangles, triangles…: I hope I can explain clear. The rotation power from the propshaft (sequential gearboxes, wheel spin if you hit curbs and brake wheel when touching the road surface again) is processed directly at the 4 front mounting points and twists the diff around the propshaft axle. Mickrick is also right in saying that the force from the driveshafts (using slicks and curbing) also twists the diff around the driveshaft axle. For this force a vertical support bracket is better. But a vertical bracket can absorbe the force only in one direction. Push and pull forces are generated. But we support under a approximate 45° angle which is strong enough and can all the time absorb push and pull forces simultaniously. Also because of the metalastic bushes the diff moves as well. To cancel the forces and divert them to a more solid section my solution is the most efficient. With that statement I do not mean that the CC solution is not good enough. Normally the diff mounts are strong enough. Only by extreme load and stress the mounts will break. And this additional force can also be absorbed by the CC solution. You don’t feel any vibrations. But my solution is clearer, more logical, looks more sexy. And if you install my solution, I trust: The best girls in world will have sex with you. 🥰 If more than 10 people are interested in a kit, we can calc a better price. Regards Joachim www.mog-racing.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 The best girls in world will have sex with you. now theres confidence in a product 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterhamnut Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 ...would these be German girls? ( Joachim - hope you are all well over there! So are Seven Mania races still open to flared wing UK cars? 😬) www.mycaterham.com here Videos here 102,000 miles car Edited by - angus&tessa on 30 Oct 2008 10:58:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hi Angus, all is cool here. We have - assuming no snow - Friday the 7th of November our last race in Nürburgring Grand Prix circuit. Special offer for all UK drivers: £ 150,00 entry fee. After the race: BIG PARTY with the world sexiest people. Regards Joachim www.mog-racing.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Normuss Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 ...would these be German girls? Would it be Sabine? 😬 VX HPC - Loud and proud here Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted October 30, 2008 Author Share Posted October 30, 2008 Joachim, after sleeping on it, I think they are acually a very good solution, considering these things are always a compromise. However, I'm not too sure about the worlds sexiest girls I think I have enough trouble with one woman, without looking for more trouble! So if anyone else is interested in buying some supports, they can have the sexy girl which would have come with mine. So, do we have a BB? 9 more needed. I'd be happy to lose the 19% TVA,(being export ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Howe Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Joachim, my kit dropped through the letterbox around lunch time today. No instructions, no sexy girls and they weren't gold plated... Now the real question, why is one longer than the other? JH Deliveries by Saffron, the yellow 230bhp Sausage delivery machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Pearce Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 why is one longer than the other? Probably the same reason as why one half shaft is longer than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Gibb Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Joachim, If this kit will fit my 1995 chassis I will have one Paul L7 FUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Westermann Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 @ John, as Ray said: The diff housing is asymetric. The left is shorter. Fitting instructions follows per email. Please send me your email address. @Paul I think 1995 chassis top shock bolt is bolted facing forwards. For that we need a addititoal angel iron which we bolt with longer harness bolts. (please see the last picture in my shop) Regards Joachim www.mog-racing.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Howe Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Accepted - silly me! That is the trouble looking at bits whilst in the office, rather than in the Pitlane. What the pictures, posted, do not show, it that the long bolt running through the top is stepped. Thus it tightens to secure the top of the damper but has a projection that comes out the other side of that threaded part of the frame to take the MOG rods. It is really a tidy solution to adding support to the dif mount. Once I get them fitted, I will post up a series of pictures - anyone interested, please send me your e-mail address via my profile above. JH Deliveries by Saffron, the yellow 230bhp Sausage delivery machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now