Genuine car weights....

[Mavic82]

My VX is dead on 600kg with spare wheel, FIA bar, carpets, 16 inch alloys, fire extinguisher, windscreen, s-type seats and no carbon bits.

 

Guy

[Julian Thompson]

Well mine's 375kg all up ready to run.

 

Except that it won't. 😬

 

There is potential to save probably another 10kg I think but it'll not be easy

[Dickie Normuss]

As Martin says, the light VX is an 8v

 

VX HPC - Loud and proud here

Watch out, whatever hits the fan will not be distributed evenly

[rj]

Julian,

 

 

If I remove my engine - to get it in as functional state as yours - my car will be even lighter than yours

 

/regin

[Julian Thompson]

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[captain chaos]

Just a slight digression....

 

For those who went to the weigh in, I understand that some cars were flat floored...generally...how close can you expect to get the set up? and what is the desired balance?

Is the aim to be equal on all fours, or, equal across the front and back depending on how you want the weight distributed front to back...

 

Cheers

Gary

[Jason Plato]

you wont get equal across each axle due to the position of the driver.

 

you end up with 4 basic options :

equal diagonals - achievable, good for cornerng but results in one front wheel locking first under serious late braking

equal weight across front wheels - achievable, good braking but compromised cornering 🙆🏻

try and get all 4 equal - end up with a bit of both the above

forget trying and convince yourself that a track or road is never flat anyway 😬

 

 

 

 

here is C7 TOP

Taffia rear gunner

 

 

Edited by - Dave Jackson on 22 Sep 2008 15:56:26

[captain chaos]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for your reply...

 

My mates had their cars FF at Hyperion reecntly...which option do you think they would have aimed for?

 

Is it achievable to get all four pretty close? and what is close?...I'm in posession of a set of scales...DaveK did my first set up (albeit reasonably quickly) and we are 20kg out across the back and 4 across the front, but quite different diagonally. I tried to improve upon that for about 2 hours yesterday and got back to exactly where I'd started

 

Certainly, I was not aiming for equal across disgonals but equal all around. From your post it seems that's what I should be aiming for, with equal diagonals being the lesser of the 2 evils..

 

[elie boone]

A Ford live axle with BDR,ali 5sp g.box,ali diff spare wheel and full wheathergear 535kg.

A Ital live axle with 5 speed box, Kent no spare lowback polyesther seats & brooklands 517kg.

 

The last FF i have done was a Kent live axle fuel 1/2

 

140.5kg 143.0kg

 

123.0kg 128.5kg

 

All this done on Longacre scales

 

 

 

[Jason Plato]

were you in the car Elie ?

 

My mates had their cars FF at Hyperion reecntly...which option do you think they would have aimed for?

 

Dont know , but my money would be on equal diagonals

 

 

Is it achievable to get all four pretty close?

The heavier the driver the more difficult is the task of equalising all 4 weights

 

20kg out across the back and 4 across the front, but quite different diagonally

 

and there is the problem ☹️ ....... you have equal fronts but wonky rears and diagonals ....

 

 

 

 

 

here is C7 TOP

Taffia rear gunner

 

[andy_h]

My 2.0 VX de-dion including my weight in driver seat is;-

 

Front right: 158.5

Front left: 157.0

Rear Right: 181.0

Rear Left: 160.5

I'm not saying this is right, just what it is.

 

Total:657kg

Driver weight 78kg

Therefore car without me: 579kg

 

This was with a full tank and some tools left in the boot by mistake 😳

 

White road legal 2.0 HPC VX race car 😬

[elie boone]

Dave, i was not in the car, the diagonals stayed pretty good about 6 or 7 kg difference with me in it. i always look at the diagonals.

I should done better but there was just a bit to much stick in the suspension whereas with all balljoints it's far more easy'er.

 

PM send

 

 

Edited by - elie boone on 22 Sep 2008 19:19:48

[captain chaos]

Thanks Dave,

 

To be fair to DaveK he did it all in an evening (camber, RH and then CW) to give me a starting point. I've not done this before so it's all new...but now I'm aiming at trying to get the diagonals closer I'll have another go

 

It looks like I'm not far from AndyH...

 

Gary

[stevefoster]

I go my VX down to 520 in race trim with 1/2 tank of fuel. Things like r500 wheels / slicks, race batt, wiper motor / assembly out etc make a big difference all up. So too no passenger seat. But things like impact and intrusion bars, plumbed in fire ext. crash prot kit and dry sump count against.

 

Add lightness, says the man with a VX :-)

My 2002/2003 racing pics

here

General pics (mostly of 7's and cars).

here

 

 

Edited by - stevefoster on 23 Sep 2008 13:40:44