Tim Sture Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 I think I already (unfortunately) know the answer to this question but it would be helpful if someone could confirm it. I am buying Simons Scott's car which is a 1600 superlight with throttle bodies and Yoko 32's. Does that shove me into class 5? I think it probably does (I'll have to start my excuses early for my likely slow times in that class) but would be grateful if someone could confirm. Thanks Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Welcome to Class 5 teeth.gif Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 5, 2002 Author Share Posted June 5, 2002 Thanks for the welcome - with AO32s, 140 bhp and about one week's experience in the car before MIRA, I think I might be a bit slow! Thought I'd better get the excuses started early smile.gif Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Tim - it will be intersting to compare against class 3 superlights (original plenum rather than tb's) on 32's with yours. i will be there as a novice (metalic orange superlight) as it is my first pukka competition outing is it really only a week away, yeeessshh better get preparing! rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 2 weeks Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 2 weeks - thats sounds better, no doubt I will leave any prep till next week anyway I assume you and miss mav are coming along? if so cu there rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyR Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 140bhp with throttle bodies, the upgrade seems hardly seems worthwhile, plus having to run in class 5. I thought the earlier 1.6 Supersports engines where quoted as 140bhp with standard injection. TonyR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyR Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 I blame MS XP or Virgin Net for my double posting TonyR Edited by - tonyr on 5 Jun 2002 18:27:57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Tonyr - sandbagging perhaps wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 We will be there. Will be good to see you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 yep - snetterton track day in october I think... are you planning on doing the saturday test day? and camping? rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 5, 2002 Author Share Posted June 5, 2002 Hmmm - there was some discussion in the pub tonight (;Lancs area meeting) as to whether the 140 was at the flywheel or the rear wheels. Only a small difference there... smile.gif Rob - I'm not sure you'll learn anything from comparing with me - although I did a few sprints with the old car (Academy Vx) so I have some competition experience, I have zero experience with more than 100 bhp, more than 6 speeds in the gearbox, or tyres more grippy than not very grippy things. I might feel more comfortable at Curborough as I have competed there before - will have to see if I can get in there too! Unfortunately cannot do Llandow owing to prior commitments. Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Tim - a possible explanation well this is my first sprint ever so maybe my complete novice will cancel out your newness to the car... rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 6, 2002 Author Share Posted June 6, 2002 Rob That sounds like a challenge smile.gif I'm just trying to get the excuses in early. Maybe the colour of your car is faster than mine? Tim Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red SLR Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Do the TBs push it into Class 5? I have been in Class 2A for all my sprints in the car. X777CAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 6, 2002 Author Share Posted June 6, 2002 They do indeed Simon - the Lotus 7 club has different rules from local sprints/hillclimbs. My old car suited the L7 club rules better whereas it works the other way around with your/my new car. Simon - to clarify the position (and maybe provide me with an excuse) is the 140 at the wheels or estimated at the flywheel? Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Tim - no nothing that serious blush.gif rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 6, 2002 Author Share Posted June 6, 2002 Rob Are you chicken? cool.gif Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Tim/Simon...are you sure it's the T/Bs that put car in class 5?..I thought it must have been because it was running list 1B's. As Simon has said the 7 sprint class structure is different to the normal club sprints. If you keep a windsreen on then I would always run list 1A's and run in class 4 if they're compulsary???. Good thing about 7 sprint classes is that they differentiate between slicks and list 1B's....general RAC sprints don't........which would stuff me from having a competitive outing on its standard tyres (CR 5OO'S). Kenny SLR Edited by - kenny on 6 Jun 2002 16:12:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I was told 32's are ok in class 3 by Alex a while back so I am sure it is the TB's the rule AFAIK is to do witht he standard engine plenum being used or soemthing .... and tim - cluck cluck wink.gif rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I may be mistaken but I thought I saw an SLR running in class 4.....guess he must have had list 1A's fitted. Kenny SLR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Kenny - i am no expert in the classes so do not take my word as gospel... Alex said "Standard 1600 SL on 032's is class 3. If it's throttle body injected, it would be in class 5. If on slicks = class 6" in this thread here rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Yep Rob you're right, just checked the comp. rules. I'd be after some list 1A's in that case and go in class 4. Kenny SLR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 6, 2002 Author Share Posted June 6, 2002 I've just extracted the following from the sprinting regs on the L7 club home page: Class 2: Lotus or Caterham Sevens powered by single cam engines of 1601c.c.and greater. Also all Lotus Twin Cam engines and Rover K 1400c.c. engines. Other twin Cam engines up to 1600c.c. are also allowed in this class provided induction is via a standard production plenum chamber. Tyres to be List 1A only. Vehicles powered by non car derived engines are not allowed in this class. Class 3: Lotus or Caterham Sevens powered by single cam engines. Also all Lotus Twin Cam engines and Rover K 1400c.c. engines. Other twin Cam engines up to 1600c.c. are also allowed in this class provided induction is via a standard production plenum chamber. Tyres to be any road legal E-marked tyre or in List 1B. Vehicles powered by non car derived engines are not allowed in this class. Class 4: Any Lotus or Caterham 7 not meeting the engine requirements of classes 1, 2 or 3 Tyres to be List 1A only. Class 5: Any Lotus or Caterham 7 not meeting the engine requirements of classes 1, 2 or 3. Tyres to be any road legal E-marked tyre or in List 1B. So - as far as I can make out: Class 2 = a superlight with list 1A tyres and no throttle bodies Class 3 = a superlight with list 1B tyres and no throttle bodies Class 4 = a superlight with list 1A tyres plus throttle bodies Class 5 = list 1 B plus throttle bodies So next year when I run with list 1A tyres (after the 32s are worn out) I'll be in class 4. Kenny - I hope that answers your question - I want to have list 1A but cannot justify buying them until the 32s are worn out, so I'm a bit stuck for now.sad.gif Ho hum Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Edited by - Tim Sture on 6 Jun 2002 16:47:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Sture Posted June 7, 2002 Author Share Posted June 7, 2002 I'm now thinking I need to get some list 1A tyres in time for Curborough. Is there a market for part worn AO32s? Coming soon to a garage near me - a Superlight called N111 AOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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