andy oliver Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I have just heard that a bike engined car does not have to meet the MOT emissions test for a car if the passenger seat is removed. This seems a little unlikely to me, can anyone shed any light on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 errr - never heard that, sounds like b *eek*ll *eek*cks to me rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 You have been misinformed, post 98 BECs are subject to emissions tests at MOT's, the secret is to find an enlightened tester 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy oliver Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 Thanks for the replies - I thought as much. As a matter of interest, are bikes emission tested for MOTs ?. If so, is there any reason why a standard bike engine in a car would have a problem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 AFAIK emissions testing is just coming in for bikes. The fact that you have a bike engine in a car makes no difference to the MOT, to VOSA a car is a car is a car and not a bike . Even though when the engine was on a bike it was not emissions tested 😬 😬 😬 I hope that makes sense 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 What happens if your car's of an age to need emissions tested but the engine's from a donor car that didn't 🤔 TIA Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 tough luck I believe, it is all related to car age ISTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeg Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I think that in that case you would have to get documented proof of the engines date of manufacture and submit it to VOSA with a plea for being treated as a special case, but I've not heard of anyone going down that path so I can't really be sure. I do know that if you put a newer engine in an older car you can get away with it, e.g. an 03 zetec in a 91 car. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTH Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 AFAIK emissions testing is just coming in for bikes 2010 IIRC best to hang on to OE exhausts. Just as well the tree huggers dont know how bad fuel consumption is on big bikes too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 put the bike engine into a car and it is even worse ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYKer Will Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Took my uber beetle for an mot today and had a chat with the boss about my blackbird mot due july as it will my first but not its. He looked in his book for caterhams which said if the 10th letter of the vin number is less than W (I assume he means A to V) and the 6th is C or K then it just has a visible inspection. If it doesn't comply with the above he has to look at a list of caterhams for the emission figures. However not suprisingly the list doesn't mention any becs. I suggested he might just stick the probe up whatever else is in the workshop but he didn't seem too pleased. I did leave a drink for the boys and hope they will look after me in July. I previously understood they put the reg number in the computer and it told them but he disagreed. If charm and beer money fails I have a plan B and a friendly acquaintence but further away. Seems to me to be a bit like the noise tests at trackdays. No one really knows how to treat becs. Quite nice being an enigma. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYKer Will Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Oh forgot to say he also said if I could prove it was a bike engine he would test it as a bike. Derr I said it is pretty obvious its a bike engine as its very small, says honda on the side and still has a bike gear change but he said I would need a letter from caterham saying it was. clear as mud when I left but I think as Mike said it is best to search out the enligtened. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade_runner Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Will, with these new electronic mot's when they punch the reg no or vin into the pc it comes up with the emission data that Vosa want the vehicle tested to. most of it is prob wrong! 'Pinky Pics' here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYKer Will Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Steve -Thats exactly what I thought but he said no as Vosa won't pay for the info. It was all compuerised so will probably take it in nice and early and just see what happens Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin b Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Will, you shouldn't have any problems When I MOT'd it last year the Reg No was posted in the computer and it came back as visible smoke test only Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative bluenose Posted May 25, 2008 Area Representative Share Posted May 25, 2008 Will I can confirm what Martin says, mine came up as visible smoke only last August, even though it has the emission figures on the log book . Best to conveniently forget to take your log book when you go for MOT . Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 My FB is up for MOT on wed. Passed oK last year but the tester (and old mate) did pull the probe in and out a bit to get the appropriate figure 😬 It looked like he new what he was doing. Needless to say its booked in at the same place again. Trevor PINK and Proud and LOUD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYKer Will Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Booked in for 11 am today I am using a local place but I know he is pretty strict as he spent ages on the 911 which is clearly very well maintained and didn't have anything wrong. I will report back later of what they make of a seven with a bike engine and no windscreen. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilg Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Did mine yesterday ( carb engine year 2000) , no problem , visable smoke only , passed fine. Not even any bending of rules as emission thing came up with Not Applicable on the blokes computer thing. So happy. Front brakes 136% efficient whatever that means!! Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Mine's over at Millwoods as we speak. They did it last year, no problems! Alicat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYKer Will Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 PASSED NO PROBLEMS 😬 Half an hour on the ramp(backwards) and an hours chat, 35 quid and all is well for 12 months. It passed with no rule bending as it came up visible smoke test only. Must be a bike engine thing as I would have thought 2000 cars would require emissions but I don't care now. Only niggles were non worky number plate light fixed with 3 smacks and non worky horn until I remembered I had nicked the fuse for the ecu last week. It wouldn't fit on the brake rollers so had a test drive in his size 10 boots. After stalling it a few times he declared the brakes very good. Will Ps if anyone needs a sensible mot in north essex give me a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE GILBERT Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Mine is the same. As no emmission data on V5 it's visible smoke only. Another great reason to have a BEC Steve See My Caterham Fireblade Here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade Runner Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Just an update on my FB. Unfortunatly my mate was on his hols so ended up with a young chap who unfortunatly was not so considerate and failed me on emissions. As its on carbs I asked if he would adjust them to suit. "Oh no thats a bike engine mate, take it to a bike garage" So off I went. Try finding a bike garage with an accessible gas analyser.When I did they were stuck at the back of the workshop through a narrow doorway which only bikes could get through. To cut a long storey short, I booked a retest and just before going down leaned off all the carbs (noting the original settings) and it passed with the comment that it was just about down to cat CO2 levels. Needless to say I have readjusted the carbs and will know what to do next year. I forget to say that inamongst all this I had phoned VOSA to try and establish what was required for my car. They were not much help other than giving me the gas levels required. However in the chaps questioning as to how many wheels etc it had, he informed me that if it had 4 wheels, a bike engine and weighted under 400Kg it could be classified as a Quad and not require testing.An interesting thought , Is this what Julian T is aiming for,I wonder. Trevor PINK and Proud and LOUD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsn Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 found it here Edited by - millsn on 3 Jul 2008 18:24:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade_runner Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 My blade has a blank space on the reg document where it says Emissions, however when the tester tapped the info from my car into his pc it came up requiring an emissions test to the standards of a 2001 tintop! it was never gonna pass that! 'Pinky Pics' here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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