akakubi Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Has anyone done these? How do you attach them to the body? Drill and screw or double-sided tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 bond i thinks the way to go Tweeky In a purple haze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 James Bond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Brooke Bond, I think !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted May 9, 2008 Leadership Team Share Posted May 9, 2008 No, Basildon Bond 😬 Joint Area Representative MAD Sevens (Merseyside And District) www.superse7ens.co.uk..........the rebuild 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted May 9, 2008 Leadership Team Share Posted May 9, 2008 ...... but seriously, I've not done this job, but how about ..... Use masking tape around the mounting point to form an outline. Then use Sikaflex (or Tigerseal) and bond ( 😬) the wing in place, allow to cure only slightly then remove the tape to leave a clean bonded edge 🤔 Stu. Joint Area Representative MAD Sevens (Merseyside And District) www.superse7ens.co.uk..........the rebuild 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy couchman Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Ah, just done it... Mine's a series 3 car (not SV/CSR) and the S3 has shorter whiskers. Only issue (Caterham supplies a good paper template to show where they go) is that the bit that bonds to the car is flat, whereas the nosecone surface is anything but flat. I carefully (measure twice; cut once) marked out where they should go, on masking tape to reduce the risk of damage, then cut a slot, using a Dremel to start and then a hacksaw and finally a very fine file to enlarge the slot to the right size. Then lots of araldite to bond the whiskers to the inside of the nosecone. I noticed a CSR (I think) had the whiskers bonded to the outside but with the curves of the S3 nosecone, difficult to see how you could get it to look right. Good luck! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Flatters Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I have fitted these by inserting 2 rivnuts on each side of the nosecone and then bolting the whiskers on. I have to confess there was very little science in setting the attack angle of these little devices, more finding the flatest portion of the nosecone that also looked about right. The hardest bit was making sure that each side was positioned the same. I can take some snaps if it is of any use. *arrowright*Harry Flatters *arrowright* AKA Steve Mell - Surrey AR and Su77on Se7ener Edited by - Harry Flatters on 12 May 2008 14:54:06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pikey Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 IIRC the new R500 has them both glues with Sika flex and screwed with M3 stainless dome head cap screws. Jason Currently, I am qualified to plead ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjmmarsh Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I just rivetted mine on using 3 rivets per winglet and made a carboard template to get the position and angle consistent between the 2 sides. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BYKer Will Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Mine are bolted. I looked at a csr at cat. mids and noticed one was flush with the nose and one was at least 2mm proud in the middle. cant say they do much other than look good though. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Do these do anything? Academics are seldom any use at engineering. One must have a mistrust of theorists. (Keith Duckworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 As " Tesco " says every little helps. The CSR wings certainly reduce high speed lift and the effect of croswinds. Can`t say that I am convinced by the wiskers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Yes Rob, I can see the CSR wings would have some effect. But the whiskers.....a bit of BS me thinks. Although I stand to be corrected. I wonder what CC's R&D consisted of? "Er, they look about right, up a bit, down a bit, that's it, that looks about right" ! Call me cynical. 😬 Academics are seldom any use at engineering. One must have a mistrust of theorists. (Keith Duckworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 One thing that could vouch for the whiskers not being BS is that these were on the yellow racecar hyperion ran. I would however still think the benefit is modest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Maybe you should have a chat with CC's marketing department. I'm sure they'll be able to tell you the benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 I can apreciate the fact that some folks like the look, but I think I'd spend my 47 quid on somthing usefull. Maybe some of those flourescent blue lighting strips. Academics are seldom any use at engineering. One must have a mistrust of theorists. (Keith Duckworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Don't get me wrong.I wouldn't fit them to my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Go on, admit it, you know you want them. 😬 Academics are seldom any use at engineering. One must have a mistrust of theorists. (Keith Duckworth) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Nope, I tend to remove anything possible... Boot floor, excess wiring, pedal rubber... whatever ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 But they are carbon fibre 😬 Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Having fitted them to my car and measured the change on the corner weight scales, the 4 post dynamic rig and the wind tunnel at Mira. I can confirm that they provide 42grams of downforce and have a minor effect on front / rear distribution. Downforce is crucially affected by the fastening method. If you use stainless steel bolts then you can gain an extra 70% downforce bringing the total to more then 71grams. I'm concerned that the zeus clips will shear or that more bugs will be on my headlamps after an evening blat 😬 here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 Dave, You must be talking about static downforce here How much upforce do they produce dynamicly? And at which speed? You must be able to check this in your suspension data-log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I tried but the zues clips bent so I went and had a cup of tea instead 😬 here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R400 Velocity R Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I have wiskers on my R400 factory fitted if any one would like pici's I would be happy to email you and yes they are riveted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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