McBreadhead Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 My crossflow has been suffering low oil pressure ever since I swapped in a higher power unit of 1993 vintage that, when I test drove it in another car, had good OP of circa 4 bar on cold. I had 'professionals' install it but from day one I had to check gauges, renew switches, PRV springs, did a mechanical test but couldn't fathom why the pressure would go down when revs rose and was generally 2 bar or worse. I've just had it rebuilt and again on start up had poor OP. This was baffling as we'd replaced the pump with a new hi pressure hi capacity item, oilways all checked, no obvious leaks etc. I then recalled the 'professionals' had swapped the 1993 sump with the 1996 item from my original xflow on the grounds that it looked better. Fortunately my engine builder spotted the potential conflict and found the collector plate grounding on the bottom. A quick tweak on the collector to provide a few mm clearance and hey presto 4 bar! It seems as if the sump heights vary so if you are considering swapping sumps do check this tiny detail. Don't ask me to recommend a certain well known 7 specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Paul Richards Posted March 5, 2008 Area Representative Share Posted March 5, 2008 Glad to hear you've found the problem. It's quite common. With a steel sump, if you ground it, it can bend up and block the pickup. We used to braize 3 nuts on the pickup so that if they touched the bottom of the sump there was still sufficient room for the oil to pass. If you see what I mean. Paul Richards Area Representative - L.A.D.S. (Lancashire and District Sevens) LADS Website Growing old is compulsory - Growing up is optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBreadhead Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Paul, Now that is a sensible little mod and a half. The older sump seemed to be a pressed steel item and 'tougher' wheareas the younger one seems fabricated. Will have to watch grounding out then. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Nick Chan Posted March 5, 2008 Area Representative Share Posted March 5, 2008 Nick, Glad to see that you are getting to the bottom of things with the engine - now if you had only just had the engine dropped in without "improvements" it might have been easier!! Cheers Nick The BEC has gone - now onto an R400!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBreadhead Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Nick, As the Beatles once said, "..........long, long winding road............." I will update you with all the history once RR (No 3) is sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMorris Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Well, not only did you get there in the end, you found the root cause of the problem. Just a pity that you were forced on the circuitous route by a person or persons unknown who could possibly have been a little more thorough. The engine certainly went well enough before teh transplant and the "improvements". With my track record with x-flows I should have bought it from under your nose anyway 😬 X-flow(er) power now resting. Trying Vx for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishmaninwales Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Nick Glad you' ve got it sorted at last. Those North Wales roads are still empty..... 😬 Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBreadhead Posted March 6, 2008 Author Share Posted March 6, 2008 Hi guys, I need to put 130m on the car to bed in the engine before the RR session but Horseshoe Pass may tempt me beyond my 5k rev limit so am reluctant. Unless I bring it up to do both............ Hope all's well in Rhyl meester English 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I had a similar problem on my 1st XF in Sweden back in 1997. Oil pressure dropped as revs rose. Turned out the engine / car builder had used a sump / pick that were not compatible. The strainer mesh was pushed hard against the bottom of the sump causing the oil to have to flow through the thickness of the wire of the mesh that was obscuring the pickup - pipe shortened problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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