Mike Molloy Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 From the 2007 Blue Book (Section Q10.3.1): ... a) International events & all MSA events: FIA 8860-2004 SNELL SA2005 SNELL SA2000 SFI Foundation 31.1A, 31.2A BS 6658 Type A/FR b) All MSA Events BS 6658 - 85 Type A (Type 'B' is not acceptable) ... I have been looking for a lid for SWMBO for trackdays and maybe a foray into sprinting next year. It seems anything with a "motorsport" label is horrendously expensive (limited market, I guess) so I have been looking at bike helmets instead. Unfortunately it seems that the BS 6658-85 Type A standard has been superceeded in the bike world by ECE 22-05, but the MSA don't seem to have noticed! Anybody happen to have a 2008 Blue book just to check if there is any update? It would be very annoying to have to comply with an "out of date" standard when I can buy an very nice Arai in the sale at my local bike shop for a mere 150 notes (similar item 450 quid from GPR!) Good article about helmet test requirements: here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardO Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Mike; you can download the 2008 blue book from the MSA website You need to register, then go to the publications area. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardO Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 From the 2008 online version : 90. Helmets bearing one of the following standards may be approved by the MSA (subject to other criteria also being met). 91. All MSA and International Events • FIA 8860-2004 • SNELL SA2005 • SNELL SA2000 • SFI Foundation 31.1A, 31.2A • BS 6658 Type A/FR 92. All MSA Events • BS 6658 – 85 Type A (Type ‘B’ is not acceptable) 93. International and MSA National Kart Racing Events • SNELL K98 and K2005. 94. Snell standards can be verified by either a selfadhesive or cloth label. The self-adhesive label has a silvered background and the cloth label will approximate to this colour (see drawing 94). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterg Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Wait until the Autosport Show in January and then get down there and haggle at the DT and/or GPR stands - I've heard good comments about Shark helmets which are much cheaper than £450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Found this on e-bay here have a look at his other helmets diffretn sz avalable. Edited by - David Nelson on 29 Nov 2007 16:36:38 Edited by - David Nelson on 29 Nov 2007 16:37:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 I needed the same last year. This is what Fiona has. here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bl0498 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Mike, The key difference with the MSA standards is that they insist on fireproofing for the helmet - normal road bike standards do not require this. Most people nowadays follows the Snell/SFI standards as they are I believe perceived to be higher. A helmet with Snell SA2005 on it will be valid for motorsport use until 2015. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Brian BS 6658 – 85 Type A is has no fireproofing but is still ok? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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