mav Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Thats for a csr 200 (gfe700) in std trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Harrold Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I have just check the box of a new filter CC midlands supplied me UFI 23 118 00 Cross Ref list printed on Box shows FIAAM FT4763 FRAM PH2874 MANN and HUMMEL W77 PUROLATOR PC603 TECHNOCAR R15 As the cooler fits above the filter fitting I would guess filter is the same on 200 and 260 Mav, have a chat with Nick at CC Midlands, for track day use you will be better with a cooler. Another point, make sure that the oil filler cap is secured with a wire to prevent it coming lose. I had a rather scary experience at donny when oil splashed on to the exhaust primaries as a result of the filler cap coming lose. Darren Edited by - Darren Harrold on 17 Aug 2007 19:39:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Thanks for the info Darren. I've already spoken wiht James at Dartford re the cooler. Will keep an eye on the filler. No chance to wire it on as yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 Well I've just taken 6.5 litres of oil out of the car (including what was in the catch tank). Replaced the filter with a Fram PH2847 which is identical to the UFI filter that was previously fitted, even down to the colour. the genuine ford item is slightly taller than the other two, and looks slightly different inside. there is no 'springy bit' in the ford one. I used just over 5 litres to fill to *just* over the flat machined on the dipstick. I'll see how we get on and report back. Thanks for all your help so far 😶🌫️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 what oil did you go with Mav ? - another unquantified Duratec variable The original ford spec for an unmodified engine is 0w/20, I'm using 5w/40 but I think that is too thick. Dave ps - trust it didnt spit back at 5L ? , I'd give it 0.25L untill it does here is C7 TOP Taffia rear gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 I've gone with the 5w50 comma motorsport as that seems to be what is recommended by CC and Minister, and in the engine handbook issued by Cosworth... No idea about spit back as I;ve not driven it, however i did run it up to temp, and it seems no oil was spat out as yet. I'll top it up gradually until a little does get dumped. Thanks for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 *wavey*Having seen what happens when an overfilled K series dry sump system (bell housing tank) does to the immediate environment I think I'll park well away from you. The last time I was within spraying distance. Interestingly at Spa as well. Edited by - Mick Day on 18 Aug 2007 20:10:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 Mick, It's not over filled now I'll find a nice spot just next to you, and I'll weatherproof yours at the same time 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 In the origonal data supplied by Ford when the Duratec was released they quote 140 degrees as the max bulk oil temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Wow! Three pages of stuff just to change some oil 😬 Mic Thanks for posting that. It prompted me to have a look in my Duratec notes. I found a Ford publication, probably later than yours, dated April 2002 that states that max bulk oil temperature for the Duratec is 150 degrees C. Even higher than the data you have. This is with 5/30 oil. I personally use anything from 0/30 to 10/40 but haven't used any oils that go to 50 since the early '90's. As for fitting an oil cooler to reduce the temeperature from 100 to a mere 80 degrees, my opinion is that this is wrong. I would be happier to run my temperature at 100 than 80 degrees C. 100 degrees C is not a high oil temperature. It is pretty normal. By all means fit an oil cooler if you are reaching 130 degrees continuously but up to 100/120 degrees is OK in my opinion if you use the correct lubricant. And that is still a lot lower than Ford say for this engine. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul jacobs Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 Well, I can confirm that with the water/oil oil cooler, the temperature very rarely gets much higher than around 80 in give and take road use, which does seem a little low to me. The benefit is that at least the oil will warm up a little quicker with the rad. water to help. I don't know whether there is any kind of thermostat in the oil cooler, which can be reset to open at a higher temperature? Paul J. Loud pipes save lives, but quiet ones save your hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanns Per Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 with my CSR-200 and an EUR4 mapping and an oil cooler (water) I have the following temp readings, centigrade oil 90-100 water 75-100 on the higway at approx 130-140 km / hr and air temps of 25 centigrade I am on the lower end of the above figures and in town and stop and go traffic on the higher end. rgds Hanns Per Hanns Per KOBER blatting the alps in a CSR 200 www.hannsperkober.at/caterham.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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