Richard Hammond Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I'm sure that this has been done to death but any quick advice about what tyres to go for. I have a 1.6k SS, doing up to 5000 miles per year on the Queen's highway. I don't want to replace them every year. I'm on 14 inch wheel Pilots at the moment so I guess anything would be an improvement ! Li7 KAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Go for Yoko 021's. OK you'll probably use a set a year if you drive hard but don't have any track use, but they are that much better than the best road tyre for your car which would be either Bridgestone RE720's or Falken 502's. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS CLARK Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 AO 21's do seem to be the best compromise between grip & wear characteristics!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ward Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I would add another vote for 021's with your "user profile". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I'd also say 021r's as long as you don't plan any dry track use as they don't work to well there. If you want something slightly harder you could try Yoko 539's. Still stickier than a normal tyre but not as soft as 021r's Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R500 CYA Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 I agree entirely with Rob, I tried my 21's at Brands in the dry just to see how they performed and they overheated very quickly. I use the 21's on the road though and they are brilliant, also a very good wet weather track day tyre. Buy yourself a second set of rims and fit ACB's for track use. They are just horrible for road use as they tramline all over the place (they are a crossply tyre) but you'll not find a better road legal track day tyre. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 Plus with ACB10's you can get part worn ones for £60 a set!! very quickly pays for the 2nd set of rims compared with new 032r's at £250ish a go. All you have to do is work out how to get them to the track smile.gif Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted March 21, 2002 Author Share Posted March 21, 2002 Consensus seems to point to Yoko 021R's then... I've just been quoted £84.60 each for these - can anyone recommend a Berks, Surrey, Kent supplier ? I was quoted £35.25 for Yoko A539's. Are these comparable (obviously not in price !) Li7 KAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Payne Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 George Polley is most likely the cheapest - c.£55 each Wimblington Road, Manea, nr.March, Cambs, PE15 0JR Tel : 01354 688111 Fax : 01354 688333 but he does do mail order Regards Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted March 21, 2002 Share Posted March 21, 2002 For A539's or any other road tyre go to Bracknell Tyre and Battery, call Tim or Lawrence on 01344 411323, they are v.cheap, not so good on racing tyres would suggest George Polley as above who are definately the cheapest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ward Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 The 539's are not really comparable with 021's/032's. They are the updated version of the old 520(I think) and are OK as a road tyre but offer significantly less grip than the softer, more track orientated other two. 539's are what I will be using as my list 1A tyre for sprints/hillclimbs, but only because i have to! I tried to scrub mine in a bit with a day at Cadwell and another day travelling sideways at Millbrook but I haven't made much impression on the hard rubber. I found out later that if I was a pro I'd have got them "buffed" from new.... If 1A legality is not an issue I would pay a little more and get some 021's if I was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Polley, 21Rs. Do anything different at your peril. Perhaps we shoud put the word 'sex' on this thread. At least then the casual searchers will definitely find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 021's! Great in the wet. I was quicker than 032 tyred cars at Cadwell in the serious wet. In the dry afternoon the 032's had the edge on me no doubt about it but not by that much. They will melt on very hot track days but then both do that anyway... They last longer than 032s (about 6000 mostly road miles as opposed to 3000 for 032's). Jason had touble getting 021's on 14" but I think supply is ok now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted March 22, 2002 Author Share Posted March 22, 2002 Steve, Did Jason go to Polley's ? Li7 KAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Micallef Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 I have 021R's on my Supersport which are very good. However I did aquaplane on the M25 last Friday when I hit some standing water at about 70mph. Very scary I can tell you! At last I own one teeth.gifteeth.gifteeth.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 Ray, Jason got 032's I believe as he only replaced the rears... Anthony, Any tyre is at risk of aquaplaning at above 50 mph with enough standing water, esp with a light car like a 7.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsn Posted March 22, 2002 Share Posted March 22, 2002 I it reasonable to run 021rs on the road and change over to ACB10s for the track - I thought ACB0s required different setups than radials. Nigel Mills - 2.0 Zetec carbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Correct ACB10's require different amounts of camber but you can get away with it. It just means they wear unevenly, I'm guessing it also means you aren't getting the absoulete best out of the tyre in terms of grip but they still seem pretty good to me. Cheers Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R500 CYA Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Aquaplane formula: 9 x square root of tyre pressure. Therefore if you have 25 psi you will aquaplane at 45 mph. By the way GP supplied me with 14" 21's, no problem. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted March 23, 2002 Share Posted March 23, 2002 Oh bugger. Better get my tyres blown up to 144psi then - I'll be safe to 108mph in the wet then. The 16psi I currently run at must be distinctly iffy smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 I was running 21s last year a they are really good you need to run them between 17 & 18 psi to get even tyre wear though, as my first set wore out in the middle after 2500 miles at 19 psi. I've been using 32's since Sept and they are even better. If you don't go out in the rain much or at all, 32's would be my choice, not sure on wear yet. I get my tyres from a guy in Egham, Surrey who seemed as cheap as Geoge Polley and is a lot closer to me not sure of the company name but ask for Ian on 01784 433333. He has beaten everybody else on price when re-booting my other cars. Edited by - MartinB on 24 Mar 2002 08:54:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 I've had 021s on my 1.8 Supersport for about nine months now, and I'm very pleased with them. I find them perfect for road use, and they seem pretty good for trackdays too (but then I'm not very quick, so I guess they don't overheat too much!). My only slight gripe is that the tread depth is a mean 6mm or so new, so they get illegal rather too quickly. My previous road tyres (Pilots) were more like 8mm as I recall. JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 If Pilots had 6 inches of tread I wouldn't use them. They're nasty. 21Rs will last 6k miles and a few track days, which is a good trade off for the improvement over "normal" tyres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markb905 Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Yep 21R's are the way to go, and would agree with the 5-6k on the road, I am running 17 rear 18 front on 185/60 14 and am getting reasonably even wear. Mark Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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