F355GTS Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 I have a 1996 Supersport with widetrack and uprated brakes. Front calipers are 4 pot with Caterham badge, rears are claw type single piston Can anybody guide me as to the best pads to use for primarily trackday but some road use also best source or same Also any part numbers would be useful thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 A search will find various opinions ranging from EBC GreenStuff (not too great if you are a really quick track driver) to Mintex 1144/1155, then on to RedStuff (much better) to Hawk Carbon metallic (or something) which are V good, but a tad pricey IIRC. Have a search, and see what floats your boatsmile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 F - I've just changed to 1144 Mintex , they feel very good . I had no fade problems at Donnington the other week , I was driving quite hard wink.gif If you buy direct from mintex , a healthy discount can be had - 01274 854000 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shn7 Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Can you still buy direct from Mintex? Last time I tried (August 2001) the guy on the phone said "Can't do that guv, it would upset our resellers!!". Previously I got the good discount (trade price?) you mentioned. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Red stuff - Dirt cheap and excellent. Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 Arnie , what were the red stuff pads like for trackday use ..... I've heard mixed reports ??? . Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ranson Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 With big brakes everywhere and ACB10s on a 1.6 Superlight and using the standard Mintex 1136 I never had brake problems on a circuit. Small front brakes and a Vauxhall caused 'glazing', replacing with 1144 meant they were a bit crap when cold. I'm a little sceptical that you need anything special, especially with the large fronts and a K series. OTOH it is possible to get the fluid well hot...... Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1400rs_0of30 Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 1400k RoadSport (130 bhp) with same brakes i.e. 4 pot front standrd drum at rear. I recently installed mintex 1144 and have absoluteny no reason to change. Were excellent at a fast day at goodwood earlier in the year. When I first installed them and on a wet day the fronts were locking up far too quick, so be carefull when first installing. Since then they are very progressing and stop excellently Sean The original 1400 K Series Roadsport Prototype My Caterham Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted March 17, 2002 Share Posted March 17, 2002 Dave J, I'm very happy using red stuff on trackdays. Some people think they lack progression but I haven't really found this. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I've just fitted 1144's and from my very short experience of them they felt like a vast improvement over the standard pads, dont know if's a combination of new bushes and stiffer springs also, but I didn't have too much time to test them as my head gasket blew shortly after setting out... sad.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R500 CYA Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I use the insanely expensive carbon metallic pads, they make a great noise (sad I know) and so far have proven very effective. That said I am finding the fluid to be the weakness in my system now, any suggestions? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 AP600 is the dogs. Ignore what it says on the label. Will last for 1 season between changes according to AP. They put the warning on the bottle for Max Power readers. Fat Arn This is a Testid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDervish Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Best pads that i have ever used - and i have tried many, 1144, 1155, 1166, 1177, Carbon Metallic, DS2000, DS2500, DS3000 - are without question the Pagid RS14-B. They are available from Caterham Parts for all types of caliper. The Pagid's have excellent feel, fade performance and wear - and do not machine the discs away like a carbon metallic or DS3000. I have used them for the past three seasons and still have half of the front pad left and the rears are hardly touched. They are expensive 'though ~ £100 per axle set - but money well spent. However they are probably not so good for Hillclimb/Sprint as they take about 1/2 a lap to warm up. Chris Porritt CLP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Red Stuff are about £40/set! Fat Arn This is a Testid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miraz Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 How many race seasons would you expect the Red Stuff pads to last for? Miraz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted March 19, 2002 Author Share Posted March 19, 2002 Redline have quoted me £79 plus vat and delivery for Mintex 1144 is that a fair price? Seems a bit high to me thats about what I pay for a set of Pagid's on the 355! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Is the price for all 4 corners ??? I paid £85.66 inc PP&VAT from Questmead for all four corners .... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted March 20, 2002 Author Share Posted March 20, 2002 yep for all 4 so seems about the going rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Arnie, What is "Red stuff"? I have good Pads but wearing thin discs...wrong way round? Also squeal when used more than just a ligh/normal touch. 1,4 SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 not 1 I would expect Miraz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miraz Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 That's what I suspected - if, as suggested, the Pagids are lasting 4 times as long, then they look like better value to me. Miraz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL FLY Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 For those of you who want Pagis RS14s Granf Prix racewear are significantly cheaper than Caterham. GPR are quoting 120 quid for a set of fronts, they're about 170 from Caterham. I've got them on mine and they're great. Biggest problem is the max power plonkers behind you that keep wanting to run in the back of you. See willfly.net for more info. If you don't spin you ain't trying smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 Roland, Red Stuff is a prodcut name for an intermediate track/race compound of pads made by EBC. I have yet to wear out any pads on my car in 25,000 miles of hard driving. Green stuff gets bad press as it wears very quickly if overheated. Godd idea to have seval compounds of pad material though for thoose "cold brake" events like Curborough.... Not that I've entered you'll understand....... Fat Arn Visit the HPC site (Humiliate Peter Carmichael)id=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 My red stuff pads last about 5 trackdays + road use (about 1/2 a year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 You brake too much! Fat Arn Visit the K2 RUM siteid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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