Mickrick Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 Does anyone know the difference in weight between the Quaife, and Elite boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 One is alleged to be made of a material found in abundance at Easter time. EFA - Ex Fat Arnie 4 Counties AO and owner of K2RUM The car of two halves with only half an engine. Edited by - EFA on 23 Dec 2006 13:41:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 what rabbit ****e 🤔 here is C7 TOP Taffia Area Rep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 What, Chocolate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 So now I understand what a dog box is I have another question 🤔 What's a Rocket box Cheers, Mick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 A Rocket box is a 4 speed Ford fitment gearbox using dog engagement. Based on the pre-Type 9 box used in MK1 Escorts etc. EFA - Ex Fat Arnie 4 Counties AO and owner of K2RUM The car of two halves with only half an engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thank you EFA I guess I never picked up on any of this, when I was a "Yoof", I wasn't one of the usual Ford Escort brigade I was one of the "Vee Dub" crowd 😳 😬 Cheers, Mick. Edited to ask....was your comment about Easter refering to one of the boxes being lighter, or weaker? Edited by - Mickrick on 24 Dec 2006 19:07:32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se7enmad Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 sorry, but what do people here do with 0.7 sec gearchanges? I must have logged into the wrong forum erm its even 0.07 apparently ❗ ... I must keep this in mind at the next set of postings re: launching cars, ET's and reaction times at the fastest caterham of the world events.. (!) Antonella 1998 Caterham Vx 1.6 Edited by - se7enmad on 24 Dec 2006 20:44:46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Mupferit Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 Out of interest, I have it on good authority that Quaiffe will be showing their new 5 speed H pattern synchro gearbox at the Autosport show. It was commissioned by Raceline with the design brief of being able to cope with 300+ bhp but fitting into a 7 transmission tunnel in place of a Type 9. I saw the early drawings of this 'box at Raceline over a year ago and it could be the answer for big power Duratecs etc whilst being user friendly on the road. Brent 2.3 DURATEC SV Reassuringly Expensive R 417.39 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted December 26, 2006 Share Posted December 26, 2006 I looked at waiting for that box but according to Steve Perks, the price in the Quaife 07 catalogue is a misprint. Also, it's something I'd like to see get a couple of years of development put on it first. _________ / __ __ / ___ _//__T/__/_ ___ / (_) (_)/ / /`-'/o/ _______ /o/`-'/ / /// ( VDU7X ) // / /___/--_________/--/___/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 what should the price be Alex 🤔 I recall it said £2300 in the brochure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 Don't know - Steve said the brochure price was about £2700 and he checked with Quaife and they confirmed a misprint stating that was the trade price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Bee Posted December 27, 2006 Share Posted December 27, 2006 No one came back with an answer of the weight differences between the Quaife and the Elite. R600 VX here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Dave iirc it was approx 14kgs, quaife was 34kg, elite 20kgs. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon.Rogers1 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Plus 3kg for the PowerTec Compressor 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 Mmm....14kgs is quite a bit! Reading between the lines.....Pro's & cons for both then. The Elite is lighter, and has a slightly less chunky gearchange, but seems to be a bit fragile. The Quaife has a slightly heavier change, is heavier, but again, reading between the lines, more reliable???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Bee Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Yea, but the real Pro of the Elite is that I can eat what I like *eek* Saviing 14kg or in some cases 17kgs 😬 in other areas on my car would be very difficult R600 VX here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 Absolutely! But what would you do? Doh! nut! 😬 I think the problem with the Elite, is the flimsy gearchange mechanism? (Well it looks that way to me!) That would be where the weight saving is. I'm only assuming mind you. As I said, reading between the lines, I haven't any experience with either Which one are you using Davey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Mick, Dave uses the Elite box. The very early versions did have some problems with the gear change brackets but the newer versions that i have seen have addressed this problem and do not suffer anymore. I will be waiting to hear some reviews of the new quaife box, also Phil at road and race trans will be offering something new, he is just test developing a new box in his Caterham that sounds rather nice. R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Pete, You didn't see the box Dave 'Elite' Edmunds was using at Fastest Caterham then. Clearly it had the same problem as it has done every time I've seen his car on a drag strip. If Bubba's is OK then good on him,, but I would personally question the reliability. I think I am the only person with a Quaife in a Caterham (in normal use) who has had a problem with the sequential box, and mine was a very early one. Never failed since. EFA - Ex Fat Arnie 4 Counties AO and owner of K2RUM The car of two halves with only half an engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 But Arnie, it is unfair to base your asumption on just one case. Elite were a new company with a radical new design of box, and someone had to to the market research? Otherwise it would have died. Any new product cannot be perfectly suitable without testing and what better way to test this than real racing? I am sure quaife has spent many a time on research before the end product is reliable. It is easy to knock a english engineering supplier who is trying to promote thier product. Where would we be if people did not bother?? I am sure that the Elite box will be sorted after efforts of willing people who are commited to product development. R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks for your comments chaps Personally, as a potential customer, I would prefer not to finance product development! Actualy, that's now three people I know of that have had problems with the Elite box I also notice from various photographs, that the Elite box uses cables as part of the change mechanism. I think you can see, that if I have to make a choice in the future, I'm starting to sway towards the Quaife product. It's a big weight saving with the Elite box, but I would prefer reliability In the meantime, thanks for the tip Peter, I'll be keeping my eye on developments at R&R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickrick Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 But then again...I don't think R&R Transmissions have a website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 No they do not. But Phil will be releasing news as soon as it is ready i am sure. R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Is Mike Quaife not an Englishman then Pete? EFA - Ex Fat Arnie 4 Counties AO and owner of K2RUM The car of two halves with only half an engine. Edited by - EFA on 30 Dec 2006 10:17:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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