TomB Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Im building up a 1.8 to replace my 1996 1.4 engine & before I get too commited, I want to know what I need to do to keep it legal. The original fit 1.4k has its Caterham engine number stmped on the block. The rover number is unknown having been ground away for the starter. The 1.8 block also has its Rover number ground off, however there is a barcoded sticker that has most of the Rover number, minus a couple of figures I cant read. The engine has come via QED who built it up a couple years who do not hold a record of the number. It has been suggested to me to stamp the engine number from that on the chassis plate/ old 1.4 so the new engine matches the chassis plate & then keep the old 1.4 in the garage so it does not enter ciculation again. It has also been suggested that I make a number up. Presumably the DVLA need to know, so what do I tell them? Is it all handled fairly easily through amendments to the V5 form? What about when it comes to MOT in April - will the MOT computer see a 1.4? What have others done in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclefester Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Well the DVLA seem to habitually put down numbers wrong themselves, so I doubt civilization will grind to a sudden halt if you do as you suggested! Just pick a number, any number...... SeaView!!!! 😬 😬here *eek* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelico Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I told the DVLA about the engine size change - so they could take more money off me. But I did not bother with engine numbers, they all seemed to have been rubbed off anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 You can stamp it up with your own number and report that to them if you wish... TWB001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 One step to a personalised plate Is it really that simple? Thought there would be lots of loop holes to stop car crime/ car ringers etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted November 20, 2006 Support Team Share Posted November 20, 2006 It's easy to make the change at DVLA - just fill in the new number and note the new capacity on the V5 and send it off. When I changed my engine Dave made a note of the engine number before it was ground off and I used this on the form - I haven't stamped it on the engine. I would just use the number you have and ignore the 2 digits you can't read - I don't think it is that important. Alternatively you could keep the same engine number and grind it off your 1.4 should you sell it on. If your car was kit built then it is visibile smoke test only so it doesn't matter what the computer says. My first MOT with the computerised system was this year and we selected what the car was before the engine replacement (1600 in my case) to get the right model. If your car was factory built then you will need to pass whatever emissions test the 1.4 needed. Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 My car was SVA`d and registered without an engine number..........it`s optional it would seem. 😬 Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 stamp your new engine with your old engine number and inform DVLA of the capacity change . That way you keep your chassis plate in check and the MOT man can cross check it here is C7 TOP South Wales AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I've just done the same thing but gone from 1600 to 1800. I've decided to keep the old engine number although I've not yet told them about the capacity change. Gareth Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport with new wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambo Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have said nothing to the DVLA this year when my engine went bang. I got a new block and just used the number off my old engine. It will not go back into circulation, It's got a FB hole in the side of it. 😳 When I built my WES^&^$(D Th etwincam I bought did not have an engine no.So I made one up and stamped it into the block RED 2.0 HPC 230BHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Mupferit Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 It doesn't appear to be too important what engine number you choose. My new 2.3l Duratec was given a 5 digit number by the engine builders last year which was on the application form for SVA although by the time I received the V5 nearly 1 year later DVLA, bless 'em, had it down as a '1798cc number unknown'. My even newer Duratec now has the same number and I have no idea what has happened to the old engine although I doubt that will ever see life in another engine bay! Brent 2.3 DURATEC SV Reassuringly Expensive R 417.39 😬 Edited by - Brent Chiswick on 20 Nov 2006 15:32:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 20, 2006 Leadership Team Share Posted November 20, 2006 And so you want to discuss this on a public forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I made mine up. ISTR it is registered as PSC 001... Never got around to stamping it on the engine though. I do have pics of the original number somewhere - but what point is that now that the grinder has been at it? 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Equipe™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Mupferit Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Why wouldn't I want to discuss this on a public forum, or wasn't that for me? Brent 2.3 DURATEC SV Reassuringly Expensive R 417.39 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted November 21, 2006 Leadership Team Share Posted November 21, 2006 No, was for Tom Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I think it's a bit off to re-use the old number - think of all the historic racers etc. that struggle to prove authenticity - and the number of duplicates of famous cars. On a more mundane level, some future owner is going to be horribly confused. Nothing wrong with making your own number up though - as long as you tell the DVLA. 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester Racing 7s Equipe™ 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 🙆🏻 Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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