Peter T Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 When i had my metal gearknob on it came loose a lot, even after titghenting the grubsrew several times. So i decided to use Loctite on the thread. Now having to undo it it is solid. ☹️ I cannot turn it at all. It is well and truly stuck? It looks like i will have to cut the bl**dy thing of to remove the transmission tunnel? What a waste of £45. Any ideas??? R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Any way to heat it up? Hopefully the thread lock will melt a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubbster Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Not sure if it is possible - but have you tried to lift the tunnel to see if you can get to the 3 bolts that hold the gear selector in? I can't think whether there is enough space or not, could be worth a try, at least you'd get the whole lot away from the car to work on further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Yes i have now removed it from the car. Heat is not an option, the R500 transmission tunnel is very expensive!!! Carbon like material and i do not want to damage it!! Cheaper to cut the gearlever? R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harold Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 use a very fine drill then a larger one until you can insert an extract tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Might sound stupid but adhesives like Locite and Araldite along with epoxy adhesives have low impact strength. Hit it with a hammer, bond could shatter When I get the mean reds the only thing to do is jump in the 7 ( with applebogies to Audrey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Pete. I know you've said "heat is not an option" but what about using a hot air gun ? I did the same thing with the loctite on my Ginetta to prevent the removal of my hand spun knob 😳 & found later that It would'nt budge. It was the high strength stuff as well ☹️ It put up a bit of a fight but the heat gun/stilson solution worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbert Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 IF I remeber correctly then Loctite is Epoxy based and as such impervious to heat once it has reacted. Making it inert so to speak When I get the mean reds the only thing to do is jump in the 7 ( with applebogies to Audrey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Got a rubber, band type, oil filter wrench? . . . Might work. Some tanktape round the knob should give better grip if you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 Tried spinning it with a oil filter wrench, no joy? Even mole grips are not working?/ R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 What about some single malt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 try bathing it in a sealed jam jar of cellulose thinners . here is C7 TOP South Wales AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Good idea Dave...........but it is still connected to the transmission tunnel as i cannot pull it through without damaging the tunnel? R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frying Pan Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Can't you lift the tunnel up as far as possible (over the handbrake), and then release the gear lever from the box. You can then put the lever in a vice and apply some more pressure. EDIT: Just read fom the top and sounds like you've got it off the car already... See some pictures of the build here. 11000 miles completed! Edited by - 7heavensoon on 20 Nov 2006 08:39:46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Peter, Is it not possible to unscrew the three bolts that attach the gear lever to the box and lift the whole lot clear. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 Yes Rob, it is now off the car. R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Gentle heat can't do any harm, I might start with a rag soaked in boiling water. You can control this to keep most of it off the CF. As stated elsewhere an impact driver might do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Flatters Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Pete, Cut the gear lever, then use a blowtorch on the stub, that will knacker the loctite and you should be able to get your knob off unless you've already ruined it with the mole grips ☹️. I may have a standard shift you could use as a replacement. *arrowright*Harry Flatters *arrowright* AKA Steve Mell - Surrey AO and Su77on Se7ener Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Try to tighten it even more to break the seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Deslandes Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 As its off the car, if the knobs bu99ered anyway, can you drill down through the top of the knob and then saw it in half to peel it off the gear stick. I'm surprised a hot air gun won't loosen the loctite. That's how I get the ends off my Leda shocks. Putting lots of wet towels and protection around the cover should protect it from the heat if you're careful. Two sets of hands might also help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unclefester Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Not wanting to be wise after the event, but try using nail varnish next time, it's so much better than Loctite....... PS Thanks for the warning though.....I assume your grubscrews are direct to the metal lever, not using a plastic sheath 'adaptor?' SeaView!!!! 😬 😬here *eek* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim V-W Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I think that loctite make a solvent / parts debonder for their cyanoacylate products called Loctite 768? Company I worked for used it, but I have a feeling it came infrom the USA. Loctite UK should be able to advise. cheers Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy couchman Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Or ask a local A&E doctor (or Loctite themnselves - this can't be the first time the question has arisen ) as to what chemical to use. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Big set of f-off pipe grips NE7Club Web Site R5 no 65 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 20, 2006 Author Share Posted November 20, 2006 It is soooooooooo tight that the pipe grips have gone through the gaffer/cloth and marked up the gear knob. So it is half b*ggered already. R500 Mango Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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