edmandsd Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 I've basically got the JPE brake set up (10 inch ventilated disc front with 4 pot AP calipers, 9 inch solid disc rear with 2 pot AP calipers) and was wondering whether the standard brake pads are suitable for a sprint such as Curborough ? Obviously circuit racing would require higher performance pads but are standard pads ideal for Curborough or equivalent hillclimb/sprints because they don't really get worked very hard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 Standard pads should be fine. Racing pads may be less desirable as you want them to work well from cold. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 Says he who uses Red Stuff....... Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Red stuff will be great for curborough Arnie ....... if the brakes dont work - you go faster !! teeth.gif dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 1, 2002 Author Share Posted February 1, 2002 Think I'll stick to the standard pads then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 Arnie That's cos I use my car on circuits as well. tongue.gif Edited by - Alex Wong on 2 Feb 2002 00:19:22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted February 2, 2002 Share Posted February 2, 2002 Dave There is only two really hard braking points at Curborough The first is when you are slowing down along the straight for the 2 nd lap turning approx 100 to 30 mph in 90 mtrs and the 2nd is again over the finish line when you have to slow to go around the bend to the collecting area again finish speed is 110+ When braking for the other corner it is really just a quick dab to settle the car I,m now awaiting critical analysis of the about statement from arnieteeth.gif Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 4, 2002 Author Share Posted February 4, 2002 Thanks Dave, Alex - Considering i'm unlikely to be setting the world alight (if not the ACB10's I'm going to be using !) the standard pads would seem suitable - Be interested in trap speed though as this is a good indicator of power......... after taking final straight entry speed into account of course. Edited by - edmandsd on 4 Feb 2002 18:38:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elie boone Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 David, your e-mail @usecolor.com does not seem to work confused.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 oops wrong david Dave Edited by - DaveK on 4 Feb 2002 22:43:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 You're going to be in class 5? Ignore Dave's braking advice. You want to brake and downshift before the first left hander, use third for the molehill and the top corner is in fourth....... One day I'll win something.... smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 Alex, I'm surprised you don't recommend doing the whole course in 4th.......... (4 speed box of course) Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 Oooh, oohh. Is there a fight for top speed too? I thought it was just fastest time? Top speed is mine. 114mph to beat. I'll take you all on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted February 5, 2002 Share Posted February 5, 2002 and in case anyone was considering it, nitrous is not allowed by the MSA...... Pump fuel only. I'll be collecting fingerprint samples soon. 114mph was stuning. I think my terminal on my fastest lap was about 100mph! I'm not very good at exiting that top corner. Not sure though as all I saw was the time. Edited by - Alex Wong on 5 Feb 2002 01:10:21 Edited by - Alex Wong on 5 Feb 2002 01:11:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 5, 2002 Author Share Posted February 5, 2002 Elie my new email address is david.edmands@uk.royalsun.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 6, 2002 Author Share Posted February 6, 2002 Graham - ever been drag racing with your Caterham ? Arnie/Peter - What are your trap speeds at Curborough ? Edited by - edmandsd on 6 Feb 2002 08:39:36 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Dave, I have never driven competitively at all, let alone Curborough. I would guess somewhere between 100 and 114 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Turner Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 I have competed at Curborough on and off for the past 13 years now and as you say the exit speed out of the top corner is all important for a good speed over the line BUT back in 96 - 98 I became more confused than normal. The car was an 1800 Super Sprint on slicks and in 96 I managed 92 mph at most events but had to use 4th gear. In 98 I used the identical car on Falken road tyres and saw 95 mph normally but was able to hold 3rd at 8000rpm (car peaked at 7400rpm). Seems to prove that gearing and exit speed are equally important. Out with the calculators chaps. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Paul, That's funny! I also used to cross the line at 8000 in third (3.9diff, 1.39 3rd gear,Falkens etc.) using you "old" 1660cc engine! Chris. ps. Stay indoors on a Full Moon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Turner Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 At the risk of going off thread here, Chris, I do not wish to be reminded that the 1660 short engine I sold you for £250? was so bloody good. Just proves what a genuine and generous type I am (was). I had a Quaiffe box fitted at the time thus my 3rd was higher so there. My dads bigger than your dad etc. Back to the thread, there is no problem stopping from 95 mph on standard brakes thus the simple answer is to go slower. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Yes Paul, But I had 205/60/13s on the rear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Turner Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 OK Chris, I accept that our speeds were close, if you don't stop reminding me I will tell everyone that you drove a Sylva (actually two). E-mail me off line with your engine diagnosis. Back to brakes I once saw a mad competitor get his front pads contaminated with brake fluid during practice proceed to pour petrol on them, light it, watch them burn and then refit them and compete (in a W*******d). Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted February 6, 2002 Share Posted February 6, 2002 Dave, You want the softest road pads you can find! They have to work instantly from cold-obviously they would be totally useless after a couple of laps of Donington, but thats a different matter. Paul, Not ashamed to say I drove (and liked immensely!) Sylvas. Designed for the job and all that! Could have been worse... Could have been a Robin Hood! (That'll get someone going...) Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Turner Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dave I changed from the standard pads a couple of years ago after a brief conversation with Ferodo. I told them the Caterham part number and they recommended either DS2000 or DS3000 (whichever were softer, sorry cannot remember). At Curborough I have to say I have noticed bugger all difference. Interesting to note that you cannot type the W word but Sylva and Robin Hood are OK. Chris, do you think Mr Mole looks at this site? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted February 7, 2002 Share Posted February 7, 2002 Dave, I use Apex pads. Very soft. Incredible stopping power from cold, but only last about 4000miles in my big Volvo. Need bedding in carefully to stop them glazing over, but once bedded are the best low-cost standard pad around. (IMHO). Paul, It wasn't Mr Mole I was thinkimg of. A certain Mr Andrews has a Robin Hood powered by a rather tasty Normally Aspirated Cosworth YB. Incidentally, Mr Mole's Robin Hood developed cracks in the monocoque bigger than the San Andreas fault, and had to have a special spaceframe strengthening section welded in. The moncoque just isn't up to competition use, particularly with a motor approaching 200bhp.(and I'm sure Mr Andrews' is significantly more powerful than that). Haven't have time to strip the short block yet, but I'll keep you posted. Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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