WDervish Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 I have for sale the following steel crossflow parts from a genuine 9000rpm 190hp engine 12 Bolt Steel Crank Std/Std Steel Rods - 5.23 in Ultralight Steel Flywheel for 7.25 in clutch Accralite 83.5 Pistons - 44.75 comp height - nearly new Block 711m 83.5 mm Kent 264 cam & Followers Duplex, new chain & tensioner Steel Posted Rockers Flat Head 41mm In 36mm Ex - unleaded seats Dry Sump Kit (Pan, Rocker cover & brand new cam driven pump) Gasket Sets :- Full engine gaskets inc head gasket for up to 84mm bore (Ajusa) Plus: Alternator, Starter, Water pump, Dizzy Exhaust Manifold 5/8 in dia - for Caterham Inlet manifold for 40's - 48's E-mail or 'phone on Home 01280 709862 Mobile 07970 103170 Please somebody buy this complete engine - it seems such a shame to split it. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 Chris, Have sent email. Regards, Chris G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 Woopsie ! Edited by - edmandsd on 29 Jan 2002 17:29:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 I agree - someone should buy the whole engine. I in association with HT Racing built an 1824cc X/Flow up to a similar spec as this a few years ago and got 182bhp at the wheels (208bhp at the flywheel) - only after years of development and a lot of investment though ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullman Posted January 29, 2002 Share Posted January 29, 2002 I am interested in buying your Accralite pistons.What type are they,flat top or bowl in type.What mileage approx have they covered.How much are you asking? please email on jill.leckey@btinternet.com Thanks Geoff Bullman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 Dave, Crikey -208bhp! Last I read it was (only!) 199 flywheel... Building a "big" x-flow myself, and am hoping for 190+bhp. It made 180 on the dyno as a 1700, and I have done a lot more work on the head since then. Not sure I can match 208 though! Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDervish Posted January 30, 2002 Author Share Posted January 30, 2002 Engine sold BUT the following parts are still available : 12 Bolt x-folw Ultralight flywheel & ring gear for 7 1/4 inch clutch 7 1/4 inch Twin sintered plate AP Racing lug drive clutch for 1" 23 spline (5/6 speed Starter motor Alternator Exhaust Manifold 5/8 inch o/d Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 Chris - With 4>2>1 manifold it showed 199bhp at the flywheel. I tried a 4>1 manifold and it increased to 208bhp at the flywheel (182 at the wheels) but lost a hugh amount of power through the midrange. So much so that it was consistently 1/3rd of a second slower over a 1/4 mile in the Fiesta.....so I reverted back to the 4>2>1. My 4>2>1 had 1 5/8th inch primaries 12 inches long and 2 inch secondaries 24 inches long running into a 2.5 inch system. The exhaust manifold design and dimensions are integral to getting the best all round performance from a crossflow - Suits the 8 valve configuration and high valve acceleration cam profile of a 264. Wish i'd kept the engine now as I reckon high 11's over a quarter mile would have been just about achievable in a lightweight Caterham with that spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 Dave, I remember your engine being for sale - I wanted it desperately (!)but was living in America at the time. I read that it had a very "trick" cylinder head, but which block did you use? Did you keep the 272 cam or was that too extreme? Regards Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted January 30, 2002 Share Posted January 30, 2002 Chris, The cylinder head was trick to the extent that Roland Hayes developed it over 3 years and it utilised the wider Pinto valve springs which resolved all problems in this area although it didn't have offset valves. Special enough to sell it to someone in Jersey for £750 ! It also had one of two fully integrated rocker assemblies made by Mike Barnby (R500 wheels) which along with tubular pushrods from the states (sourced via Arias - even experimented with carbon fibre ones for a while !) gave an incredibly rigid valve train. Incidentally Mike's selling his X/Flow with the other fully integrated rocker assembly and pushrods along with his own gear drive which really is something special. I used an AX block which had to be linered when a bore broke through with 86.5mm pistons. The steel 272 cam gave more than the 264 although I knocked it out 6 months after installing it becaue someone pursuaded me to try 0 viscosity oil ! Other bits of the engine now reside in Barbados and Australia ! Edited by - edmandsd on 30 Jan 2002 19:19:01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdg Posted January 31, 2002 Share Posted January 31, 2002 Dave, If I'd had my way the whole engine would have resided in Virginia! Thanks for the info. May I ask who linered your block for you, as I may need to go this route myself. re. the oil; I tried 0 viscosity oil (Motul) for one season- didn't knock the cam out, but absolutely pissed from every orifice/seal known to man! Regards, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 HT Racing linered the block - contact Aaron Tucker on 01474 872888. They do virtually everything in house these days. Cheers David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Anyone know what the value of a used 12 bolt steel crossflow crank is ? I am just weighing up a few options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 New ones cost arround £1000 (inc vat), and then upwards to 1600 ish. Half that, add a bit for good ondition. You'll see ones addvertised for as low as £400. Remmeber to factor in the cost of getting it crack tested (which should show up porosity). This costs arround £100 (inc var). If its been ground more than 10 thou, it may need nitriding. Buyer beware! Or you could just go and buy a new one, and have piece of mind! Greg, Q 880 RAE (Green/Ali XF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Graham - are you buying or selling because I know someone who's after one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted February 1, 2002 Share Posted February 1, 2002 Neither at the moment, but I am costing up a new engine that may go in in the next 24 months, and if I sell my 12 bolt Steel crank and rods it will appear here. Its nice to know that although the cross-flow is considered 'old-hat' by many that there is still a healthy market for secondhand race engine parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 When I converted from a X/Flow to a BD I utilised the crank, rods (5.23 inch), flywheel, clutch and dry sump (Could have also used the AX block but went the 2lt ali block route instead). Often advertising bits as BD parts (but also available for X/Flow) gets more interest and return !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don_g Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 I'm interested in the twin plate clutch. Could you give me a bell with the details? Don on 01483 810028 (and it's a shame I didn't see your ad earlier - just bought new crank and rods from Farndon!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now