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Need a reliable alternator for my car - advice?


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Like it's template, EDZ223, my car has developed a penchant for failing alternators and I'm thinking it's time I stopped using the cheap Lucas rebuilt units I'm using and fitting a decent fit and forget unit. The DT catalog stocks 2 lucas replacement units, rated at 40amps and 100amps. How many amps will my car need (full road going car - lights etc and fuel injection with a standard battery)? Is there another alternative?

 

Latest failure looks like a mounting failure - will be taking it off the car later today to see.

 

Thanks.

 

Alex

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Alex - Ive experimented with a few different set ups over the years but am confidant in my current set up which utilises a Brise multi wire (as opposed to single wire) light weight alternator (approx. 2.5kgs) driving a sealed Yuasa harley davidson battery (5.1 kgs).

 

As I don't use the car much I also use a bike battery charger continuosly connected to the car whilst out of action (supplies feed upon demand not continuously)

 

I have to say this is the first time in racing for god knows how many years that i've found a reliable and lightweight set up - The battery and charger were cheap aswell.

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Same experience as Dave. I run a Brise Nippon Denso alternator multi-wire. Brise did two sizes of pulleys - 80mm and 53 mm IIRC. A standard K pulley would work well with an 80mm pulley but the 53mm pulley is almost perfect for mine - gearing on the ND alternators should keep rpm below 14,000. The rev range of my engine gives problems in that the gearing has to be low so charging starts some few hundred rpm above idle. This means that getting stuck in traffic (at night with th lights on is the worst) drains the battery.

 

I got stuck in traffic on the M6 heading back from Oulton and I had the combination of engine temps gradually climbing (radiator fan on constantly), battery draining, clutch threatening to wear out with the repetitive stop/start. I could raise the revs at standstill to keep charge on the battery, but that resulted in extra heat dumped into the coolant and higher temperatures. Still, it put up with that for 40 minutes and temp never got above 95 and battery quickly picked up a charge when I got a clear blast onto the M5.

 

I haven't had a problem with battery since I fitted an isolator.

 

*thumbup*253 bhp, up and running *thumbup*New boingy bits *thumbup*

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Peter

 

Used to get problems with battery getting drained on my motorbike in winter in traffic using bike for short journeys. Found a 20 W halogen side light which was good enough for use in lit areas. Had the advantage of giving a bit extra light when dipped beam on. Might help reduce problem if stuck in traffic at night.

 

AMMO

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Peter,

I would have thought in a high revving engine such as yours you'd want the larger pulley to reduce alternator revs relative to the crank revs ?

 

Have you altered your crank pulley at all ?

 

Cheers, Simon.

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Alex,

 

I run the standard Valeo alternator on my Vx. I'm still using the original 9-year old unit which, despite having spent several years being run at revs peaking at over 24000, has never failed. The only downside is that it is a little heavy. Of course, it will probably fail now!

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Do Brise/Whoever actually do anything to the alternators internals, apart from messing with the windings to increase the amperage? They both look remarkably similar to the ND alternator fitted to the Daihatsu Charade. I use two of them, one fitted to my Atmo Cossie, which now revs to 8200rpm.

At around 70 quid for a re-con one outright from my local automotive electrics emporium, they seem like a bit of a steal. I use the single wire one. I'm not sure what the 3 wire one comes from, but I have a sneaking suspicion it's off a Bedford Rascal van!!!!!!!!!

It puts out around 50 amps (maybe 55) and is enough to power my Vx road car (7200rpm), which runs DTA ECU, throttle bodies and all the various senders, lights, wipers etc etc, and a small battery which is the equivalent of Dave Edmands Yuasa item. In fact, I have a new Yuasa battery waiting to go in to the Cossie, so that I can save several more kilos in weight. From my road car experience, I'm not expecting any problems..........

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